[G-Oil Guy]

Originally Posted by Frank in MD

I hear you, but people here are saying they don't want a full size truck, and for those that don't have a need for a Silverado, this truck has appeal. That's what those folks are saying, not me.

I understand he all new Colorado a completely different truck, but the main reason the last one was not successful was the price was close to that of the Silverado, and that hasn't changed, it seems.

MSRP to MSRP the trucks are no where near the same price.

If the the Colorado/Canyon gets similar rebates, they still won't be anywhere near the same price.

[Mikes SS]

The same can be said on the other side of the coin of well for a couple grand more I can get a bigger more capable truck and well I don't need as big of a truck and it's a couple grand less...just depends on perspective....the big deciding factor will definitely be MPG's and if they are about 1-2mpg apart HWY, these are gonna be a tough sell I think. The 4cyl really needs to be closer to 30mpg to be a marketing point

[crysalis_01]

Originally Posted by Mikes SS

The same can be said on the other side of the coin of well for a couple grand more I can get a bigger more capable truck and well I don't need as big of a truck and it's a couple grand less...just depends on perspective....the big deciding factor will definitely be MPG's and if they are about 1-2mpg apart HWY, these are gonna be a tough sell I think. The 4cyl really needs to be closer to 30mpg to be a marketing point

This. Even if it's just in a 4x2 regular cab 1WT XFE model the marketing value would be great.

[Sapper12b]

Agree .... it will have to come down to the MPG

[Silverlsinva]

Hmmn not too sure about the pricing seems like a Ext cab Z71 4x4 will clock in about 32ish and when the diesel hits next year it will reach the 35k mark which to me is Just too much Unless its close to 30mpg or at 30mpg cause if ram can get their full size eco diesel to 28 mpg I cant see why this wont get near that or beat it even with a 6speed auto compared to a 8speed auto.

[2010SLVRBULIT]

$20K for a 4cyl M6 base model is a stretch, imo...only comes w/ manual windows and an AM radio as well?.

[Silverlsinva]

Originally Posted by 2010SLVRBULIT

$20K for a 4cyl M6 base model is a stretch, imo...only comes w/ manual windows and an AM radio as well?.

No it comes with power windows and express down for the drive is what I got from the OP and I think I saw a rear back up camera as standard too. Base doesn't mean nothing in the vehicles anymore.

[roorback]

Originally Posted by Frank in MD

Why pay 35K for a mid-size truck w/ a 5' box when @ that price it's clearly hanging out in Silverado territory? I bet you can probably get a Crew Silverado 4x4 w/ a 5' box for very close to that?

EDIT, Yep, I was right. http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado-1...iU1VNTUFSWSJ9@

and that's a 5.3 V8. When will GM learn, the old Colorado wasn't a bad truck, it was too dang-gum expensive.

Yup. 35k for the decked out version is still too close to the Silverado (albeit a much lower price-point Silverado). As you've all said the gas mileage needs to be a homerun.

That being said I am still very interested in the 28k midlevel Colorado.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Yeah I have detailed pricing on both trucks.

Sooo.....why can't we see it???

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Comparing MSRP to MSRP, there is a large pricing gap between the trucks. Even with incentives on the full sizes, a midsize truck is still a few thousand less, plus it'll have better fuel economy.

Originally Posted by G-Oil Guy

MSRP to MSRP the trucks are no where near the same price.

If the the Colorado/Canyon gets similar rebates, they still won't be anywhere near the same price.

I just went to the Chevrolet website, and built a Silverado. A LT (low to midrange trim, just over the 2WT trim) in a crew cab, and 4x4 MSRPs at 41 grand. I didn't even add a single option. That was the starting MSRP for a 4x4 LT crew.

4 wheel drive adds 3 grand on the full size, so we'll say it adds 3 grand on the Colorado. As I said above, I bet you'll be able to get into an LT crew cab 4x4 V6 Colorado for an MSRP of 31 or 32. So a 9 to 10 thousand dollar difference. That's huge.

Yes...the rebates on the Silverado will be much bigger...I realize this. But lets say you could get 8 grand off the Silverado. I've seen 9 or 10 I believe, but 8 was the longest running I've seen. So that gets the Silverado down to around $33,000.

Now lets say they are running rebates of only 3 grand on the Colorado. Your looking at about $28,000. Still a 5 thousand dollar difference.

To me...that's not near close enough to sway me into a full size. $5000 buys you a crap ton of gas, not to mention while I like full size trucks, I don't need one, and the Colorado really the perfect size for me. Also, I'll be saving on gas over the lifetime of the vehicle ownership. In the end, I could be saving myself 10 grand over a Silverado.

If you need a fullsize, then get it. Otherwise the Colorado just makes sense.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by Frank in MD

Why pay 35K for a mid-size truck w/ a 5' box when @ that price it's clearly hanging out in Silverado territory? I bet you can probably get a Crew Silverado 4x4 w/ a 5' box for very close to that?

EDIT, Yep, I was right. http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado-1...iU1VNTUFSWSJ9@

and that's a 5.3 V8. When will GM learn, the old Colorado wasn't a bad truck, it was too dang-gum expensive.

Except, that same build in a Colorado with a couple grand in rebates would likely put it in the 30K range, give or take a few grand....so really...its not even close

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Sooo.....why can't we see it???

Because this is at the bottom of the page:

Any Unauthorized Access Is Prohibited And Subject To Prosecution!

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Sooo.....why can't we see it???





I just went to the Chevrolet website, and built a Silverado. A LT (low to midrange trim, just over the 2WT trim) in a crew cab, and 4x4 MSRPs at 41 grand. I didn't even add a single option. That was the starting MSRP for a 4x4 LT crew.

4 wheel drive adds 3 grand on the full size, so we'll say it adds 3 grand on the Colorado. As I said above, I bet you'll be able to get into an LT crew cab 4x4 V6 Colorado for an MSRP of 31 or 32. So a 9 to 10 thousand dollar difference. That's huge.

Yes...the rebates on the Silverado will be much bigger...I realize this. But lets say you could get 8 grand off the Silverado. I've seen 9 or 10 I believe, but 8 was the longest running I've seen. So that gets the Silverado down to around $33,000.

Now lets say they are running rebates of only 3 grand on the Colorado. Your looking at about $28,000. Still a 5 thousand dollar difference.

To me...that's not near close enough to sway me into a full size. $5000 buys you a crap ton of gas, not to mention while I like full size trucks, I don't need one, and the Colorado really the perfect size for me. Also, I'll be saving on gas over the lifetime of the vehicle ownership. In the end, I could be saving myself 10 grand over a Silverado.

If you need a fullsize, then get it. Otherwise the Colorado just makes sense.

That is true, but here is how I look at it as the Canyon had my serious interest.

A 4WD Canyon SLT starts at 37K, the 4x4 crew cab F-150 XLT starts at 41. Yeah thats a 4K difference, and I normally hate throwing discounts into the ring, but on trucks you almost have to bc they are all heavily discounted. I know that there will be bigger rebates on the full size, so unless the midsize trucks offer a serious advantage in the gas mileage, I would rather have the full size, especially if the 2.7 Eco gets good mileage.

Now that's me, I know alot of people won't even look at a full size and these trucks will find a home. But to me, the price of a 4x4 canyon is just knocking way to close to a 4x4 full size

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by shaffe

That is true, but here is how I look at it as the Canyon had my serious interest.

A 4WD Canyon SLT starts at 37K, the 4x4 crew cab F-150 XLT starts at 41. Yeah thats a 4K difference, and I normally hate throwing discounts into the ring, but on trucks you almost have to bc they are all heavily discounted. I know that there will be bigger rebates on the full size, so unless the midsize trucks offer a serious advantage in the gas mileage, I would rather have the full size, especially if the 2.7 Eco gets good mileage.

Now that's me, I know alot of people won't even look at a full size and these trucks will find a home. But to me, the price of a 4x4 canyon is just knocking way to close to a 4x4 full size

I agree that the Canyon is a tougher sell because it commands a 2 or 3 thousand dollar premium over the Colorado, which shrinks that gap between it and a fullsize.

But what does the SLT Canyon have that the F150 XLT doesn't? Anything? Does the Canyon SLT have leather, and other goodies whereas the XLT might have cloth? Just a thought...I really have no idea. If so, that makes it a bit of an unfair comparison.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I agree that the Canyon is a tougher sell because it commands a 2 or 3 thousand dollar premium over the Colorado, which shrinks that gap between it and a fullsize.

But what does the SLT Canyon have that the F150 XLT doesn't? Anything? Does the Canyon SLT have leather, and other goodies whereas the XLT might have cloth? Just a thought...I really have no idea. If so, that makes it a bit of an unfair comparison.

That is also true I based that purely off that being the only price listed for a 4x4 Crew Cab Canyon that I saw in this thread unless I missed it haha. I will have to wait and rejudge once more pricing slips out for the canyon.

I would like leather, but in a truck it wouldnt be a deal breaker for me. I know this will sound weird for a truck, but the way it looks is super important to me. The current F-150 IMO really only looks good in the FX package. This is why I like the canyon over the Colorado, it looks insanely better to me. The 15' F-150, if I am reading the appearance guide correctly, I can make a XLT look exactly how I want. Another thing I need to look at is rear seat room. I might be able to get away with an extended cab in the full size.

What I really need to do(and cant wait to do) is just go look at the trucks once they hit the lots, drive them, test the hell out of them and figure it out.