[SGOS252382]

Originally Posted by GaBoy25

Holy hell yes.

Throw on some dr and run 10s

It's nice to dream.

Most Camaro5 members thought the 5th gen was going to be a lot faster than it is.
I have a feeling the same thing will happen with the 6th gen.

If it can run solid mid 12s (skilled drivers) I'd be pleased. That would make it a low 12s (glory pass) car.

The current 5th gen is a low 13s (average Joe), high 12s (skilled driver), mid 12s (glory pass).

[The IOM Ninja]

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

Since we do not know what the Ford crew will be putting out, the question is mute. We are at an advantage engineering wise, having much more time and experience away from the antiquated F body structure, using a different Zeta chasis design only to be ungraded to Alpha. Ford has to make the quantum leap forward from their fossil frame architecture. It's up to the engine shops for sure, based on corporate edict about what they allow them to tinker with HP level wise, and what is their HP vision for the future. Hopefully we have some modular leeway with the engines to switch and swap, mix and match along the lines of what Ford has shown lately.

Maybe I'm missing something here but the S197 Chassis is way better than the SN95 (AKA modified Fox Body Chassis). The new chassis (which will be an upgraded S197 design) will more than likely significantly better than the current chassis.

Both the Camaro and current Gen Mustang were designed to be convertibles so I don't see where the complaint is.

Not arguing, I'm just wondering how you mean because more than a couple of people on this forum have stated the current gen is on the same chassis as the New Edge Mustang...

I know the Zeta 2 is more ridged than the S197 but it seems that some think the Mustangs chassis is made of glass...

[Brutal SS]

Originally Posted by Camaro_Corvette

Brutally faster.

Best response ever.

[JAX CAMARO]

Agreed

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by OldScoolCamaro

Since we do not know what the Ford crew will be putting out, the question is mute. We are at an advantage engineering wise, having much more time and experience away from the antiquated F body structure, using a different Zeta chasis design only to be ungraded to Alpha.

Actually, I suspect that the chassis dynamics of any of these cars are fairly well understood at the time of introduction. I find it very hard to believe that there wasn't an engineering mule or two with near-1LE wheel/tire/suspension tuning or ZL1 power roaming the proving grounds before you could buy any 5th gen.

I wouldn't underestimate how close Ford might be. The show car for the current S197 platform was fitted with IRS, and even though changes were made to fit the 3-link stick axle there is still some DEW-platform Lincoln LS (which has IRS) DNA in it.


Norm

[bowtiefamily]

Straight past warp to plaid.

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Faster than a MUSTANG is all we need it to be.

Setting the bar pretty low I see.

[Captain Awesome]

Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED

It may be slightly lower then 426hp or the same but it'll be on a lighter platform hopefully which will equate to faster times. Are we concerned with faster times or less hp #'s?

Less cylinder numbers and higher fines for owning them are a primary concern.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by karguy

What do you talk about "faster" ?
In a straight line or on a road course ?
It will be much faster with 450hp and 500lbs less due to the ATS platform.
Probably 95 % of "C 7 fast" for 20 grand less
Like the gen4 SS compared to the C5 base Vette...
The good old days...
Today if you want Corvette fast you have to spend ZL1 Corvette money.
Where's the deal ?

If you read the wish list thread, the 6th gen will be pushing 5000 lbs by the time they add in all the comfort features people want.

I expect the 6th gen SS to be slightly lighter, slightly more powerful and slightly faster than the 5th gen SS. I don't think it will be as big a change in any way as people are hoping.

[KMPrenger]

I expect base trims, to top tier V8 model to lose a good 300+ lbs. I don't think we will see 400 - 500 or more lost, but if it did I wouldn't be complaining. (unless they made the car too damn small and lost it for that reason).

It can be smaller, but just a tad. I'm thinking ATS size.

[lbls1]

Originally Posted by karguy

What do you talk about "faster" ?
In a straight line or on a road course ?
It will be much faster with 450hp and 500lbs less due to the ATS platform.
Probably 95 % of "C 7 fast" for 20 grand less
Like the gen4 SS compared to the C5 base Vette...
The good old days...
Today if you want Corvette fast you have to spend ZL1 Corvette money.
Where's the deal ?

Agreed. The 4th gens were very close (uncomfortably for a couple of years) to the corvette in power and acceleration.....especially when they went to the ls1.

The 6th gen will need to recapture some of that balance between power and efficient weight to re-establish itself as a dominant competitor.

[29er]

before going faster, it needs to get slimer..