09-07-2021, 09:52 AM | #29 |
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I sold a car a few months back with a manual… thought I wouldn’t miss it much, I was wrong. When the crazy prices come down, I’m buying another manual (even if it’s a beater Miata).
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09-07-2021, 09:56 AM | #30 |
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I'd buy one...
Another M6 vote. Simply cannot match the driving experience without a 3rd pedal as stated numerous times. Don't get me wrong, the new autos are great, but even the new DCT transmissions don't excite me after 10 mins of driving (PDK, BMW M DCT, AMG DCT, C8 - yes I have driven all of these). So my truck and the wife's SUV are autos, and I would own a dedicated single digit 1/4 mile car with an auto, but for any road course, or pleasure driving car, manual no question...that's why both of mine have 3 pedals
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09-07-2021, 10:09 AM | #31 |
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#SaveTheManuals
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09-07-2021, 11:37 AM | #32 |
M6 for me. I haven't owned a manual in nearly 20 years, but I never really even considered an AT in my Camaro. I learned to drive with a manual Subaru way back when and have had other manuals in between and overall I like being more engaged, being able to downshift to pass quickly, scrub speed when coming into a slower speed zone, etc. I also ride a CVO Harley, which honestly I ride probably pretty similar to how I'll drive my Camaro - quick acceleration, faster through the corners, etc. - just with a little less lean through the corners lol.
I live outstate, so the traffic congestion concerns are an infrequent issue for me. If I had to deal with traffic daily, I might reconsider as others have mentioned.
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09-07-2021, 12:11 PM | #33 |
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Mine is a stick, and I just like driving one, as others do here with an M6.
Yeah, driving in traffic could blow, but that's a small price I am willing to pay as long as I get to stretch the leg of the car somewhere. And most people I talk to definitely respect the car more with it being a manual. Just a thing most car people do. That said, I am aware of the objective advantages automatic transmissions hold. The personal enjoyment aspect of the manual overrules them all, however. Paddle shifters are NOT a sufficient replacement IMO; tapping a button isn't nearly the same as moving a mechanical shifter, and there is an inherent satisfaction you get for doing a downshift rev match well that simply can't be replicated with the paddle shifters. If precision is needed, like on a track, there is ARM that guarantees the downshift rev matches are perfect.
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09-07-2021, 12:17 PM | #34 |
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For this car, stick is the only choice for me! Yes, traffic can suck, but I don't really DD it (work sometimes?) but hit traffic on road trips, especially getting off Long Island, geez! It has been on the road many a time in the last 1 1/2 years.
Manual is more engaging, more fun, more pleasure. This is a pleasure car. I will be tracking next year also, auto might be easier there, but not as exciting! To me.... |
09-07-2021, 12:17 PM | #35 |
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I prefer manual. I feel like I am driving the car and it is a joy to drive.
I can see if you live in a busy traffic congested area with traffic jams all the time, stick would suck. If you are driving in the winter through snow I think a stick would suck (I haven't had mine out in the snow so I do not know for certain but imagine an automatic would be easier... winter truck makes it way easier). |
09-07-2021, 12:19 PM | #36 |
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To me, there is no choice, M6 only. I found my A10 ZL1 a little boring, because you are not as much involved in driving. BUT I understand my opinion is not everyones. Most people today did not grow up on manuals so automatics are a natural choice. And driving an auto Gen 6 Camaro is still a ton of fun.
I will say also after owning an A10 ZL1 paddle shifting to me is not much fun on a 10 speed auto. And as to autos they are a bit faster, if you put DRs on an A10 and the M6 with practice the A10 is about 1-2 tenths faster. At Atco My LT1 was dead even with a friends A10 2020 Mustang GT. We both had tires and a CAI. The secret is 100s of trips down the quarter in manuals. Just a shift light helps a lot. And if you want a manual, the V8 Camaros have one of the best manuals in the car business.
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(Okay, Porsche Taycan has a 2-speed auto unit, but most EVs do without transmissions OK) And that's the thing, if I just want to accelerate the fastest(especially in speeds usually encountered in daily driving), I would just get an electric car. Yeah it lacks the sensation of an ICE, but eh, if I am not shifting then it's po-teh-to po-tah-to. Bonus that you are quiet while going fast and therefore, cops are less likely to harass you. Quote:
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09-07-2021, 12:22 PM | #38 |
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I've had my A10 for a month now.
I like it but don't love it. Next time it will be the M6. |
09-07-2021, 01:47 PM | #39 | |
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09-07-2021, 01:56 PM | #40 | |
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I had 6 speed manuals for 17+ years straight, but I have an A10 ZL1 because it's unquestionably quicker than the M6 ZL1. Sure M6s are fun, I guess, but a lot of people act like shifting gears is the only thing they are doing that is fun in a car. Using the paddles is an OK substitute.
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09-07-2021, 02:23 PM | #41 | |
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As for the OP’s question, I have both a 6-speed manual car (C6 Corvette) and my Camaro is an auto. There is nothing like a manual transmission car to make you feel completely connected to the car. Autos are great because they shift fast and do the work for you. Much easier in traffic. If it’s your only car, I would go with a manual. |
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09-07-2021, 02:25 PM | #42 |
For me, for Pure Performance it's an auto. Heck, my drag cars have essentially been Autos or clutchless since the 80s. And pretty much been the standard in Drag Racing ever since.:-) It's easy to understand the resistance though. Manuals are easy and don't require much thought. Modern cars and electronic controls require old dogs to learn new tricks. Simply put it's a performance advancement like any other. I don't see too many people crying to go back to double clutching, Carburetors and manual timing, fixed-function rear ends. In my opinion, Modern Autos allow you to be more engaged in the Driving Experience. You have more control over the car if you understand it and choose to take full advantage of it. People don't like change, and people don't like to have to work and learn new things. That's understandable.
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