01-29-2020, 10:35 AM | #29 |
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This sounds like a ridiculous excuse for any manufactor except ford and their hype machine marketing and reliance on their fans tow the line... semi serious lol
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01-29-2020, 10:35 AM | #30 |
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Well that's just great... no LT5 ZLE for us. :(
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01-29-2020, 10:35 AM | #31 | |
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Rocket - the prepped strip testing is best done between the RE and base GT500. Might as well allow for a sticky tire change. We all know with launch traction, the ZL1 has no chance.
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01-29-2020, 10:37 AM | #32 | |
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I just found the MTOD test - and it was a '15, not a '16 - not that it matters. Still - different cars, different days/conditions, etc. It was the same driver at least, but it's still not entirely scientific. Fair enough point though.
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01-29-2020, 10:41 AM | #33 | |
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Also while they say the zle had no chance, that's not factually true. The zle and zl1 and only separated by 2 tenths or so according to most stats. The zl1 has a better chance but it's not a huge difference. I do agree that using two zl1s wasn't my favorite part, they should have stuck to the zle the whole test. The gt500 would do better with new tires, but if two seconds better remains to be seen. Especially after a few hotlaps.
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01-29-2020, 10:47 AM | #35 |
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We know that the Challenger is not a Track car and should loose in that test just as we know that at the Drag Strip the Challenger is at home so line them up test with stock rubber and then with the same DR and any other minor tweeks see what a good driver can do in each.
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01-29-2020, 10:52 AM | #36 | |
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And I agree with you said about the ZL1 and ZLE times, Just thought it was funny how Blaq loves to say the GT500 has every advantage and then in this test for the Camaro they used a different car to give it a better shot bc they didn't think the 1LE would do good lol
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01-29-2020, 11:08 AM | #38 |
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Hey guys, James here from Throttle House.
Just to clear some things up about the tires, the GT500 supplied was from Ford USA. And we were incredibly disappointed when we saw how not-fresh they were. From a PR perspective, Ford made a bit of a doozy here, because really the GT500 would have won with fresh tires, as Randy stated in the video. Thomas and I make these things happen as only the two of us. Between flying Randy and Jason out, organizing the track, the insurance, the cars, the accommodation and everything else, some things are going to slip through the cracks in terms of logistics. We hope it never happens but we don't have a budget like bigger outlets do, or the flexibility to switch dates. It's just a shame that this was something Ford could control, and didn't. Perhaps they underestimated the exposure of the channel? I don't know. But like you (and a million mustang owners), I wish the tires were fresher, and I was upset on the day to find they weren't. |
01-29-2020, 11:08 AM | #39 |
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Would have been nice if they had taken the approach in Camissa's other video and put the same brand new rubber on all 3.
The GT500 keeping up with the 1LE on a softer ride is impressive. If dollars are not in the equation, I would definitely consider it over the ZL1. When it comes time to put your money down, though, hard to argue with the ZL1. ^^ Thanks for putting the video together Throttle House dudes. Thoroughly enjoyed it. |
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I hope to see some more tests with the base 500 and Zl1. I think it's safe to say GM wins this gen performance wise and performance per dollar wise. Nothing you can do but tip your cap to them |
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01-29-2020, 11:13 AM | #41 | |
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In the end, 3 out of the 4 of them would go with the Gt500 and that will stand out to people watching more than anything else on this review. |
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01-29-2020, 11:18 AM | #42 |
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Willows Springs was re-paved recently. That explains the lower track times compared to a few years ago.
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