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See with auto climate systems, I rarely touch the temp. Maybe a degree or two on a long trip. The seat climate controls are only on the touch screen. Makes no sense why there's not a physical button for them. I frequently only use my heated seats in winter, and will adjust them much more often than I would the temp.
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As someone who loves go fast sedans, I wanted a Charger Scat Pack badly. Well, that's a partial truth. I did want one, but that desire hasn't changed. It's more practical (although that's just in my head to prove I'm a responsible father, even though I have a family vehicle), and it's so freaking cool. As far as I'm concerned it has a better infotainment system (Uconnect vs MyLink) and it's just more "luxurious"...something I've always liked. But I also really like going fast. Of course, the reality is that I only see "twisties" at best once a year, and will probably only ever visit drag strips, not a road course / autox....so my situation is just pooped. I can't make up my mind. Throw some fat tires on the back of that Charger Scat Pack and that's one cool sedan. But you really have to be a sedan guy I guess...otherwise, it's not even an option. I personally can't stand the Challenger.
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I have driven both the Scat pack and a Hellcat. Neither car can get the power to the road. Even the Scat pack is REAL easy to break the rear end loose. The Hellcat is just plain scary!
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Well yea, if you want to get the most out of those cars, you buy them knowing you are going to have to invest in more rubber, and you hopefully can work that into your "deal" with the dealership. In other words, get them to go down enough on the price to compensate for it. Scat Pack has to be ordered, but you can still find them on the lots from people who ordered and didn't pick up.
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What I mean by projecting his opinions on to everything, he completely downplayed every advantage of the Camaro and overplayed the slight advantages of the Challenger. How can you put so much value in size over another car when the Camaro is clearly supposed to be a smaller car. It's not like minivan vs minivan here. |
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I haven't been in the new Camaro nor the 16-Scatpack but I will agree with everything he said based on my prior experience with the two. When I swapped out my modified 2010 SS to the 2012 392 Challenger it was night and day. The Challenger felt like the better car in every measurable way. It looked better, felt meaner, sounded better, was way more comfortable, and was faster.
Now the Camaro has gotten better and may be the faster of the two, but that Scatpack Challenger is just nasty in everyway. I can't wait to try out both cars. Great video.
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Clearly, this person was focusing on comfort. If you have a family and older teenagers, I would agree the Camaro isn't the choice for you. If size, comfort, ride quality and those sorts of measures are your thing then the Challenger is your car. If you want a more visceral experience, love the ultimate in acceleration, road holding ability, joy of driving a sportier car, relative economy of purchase, fuel mileage and crowd appeal, the Camaro is your car. It would be like faulting the Corvette for not having a back seat.
You can't fault a person for personal preference appeal, however, the sales of the 2010 and newer Camaros clearly show the appeal it has in the muscle car market. To each his own.
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3.) Comfort to me is important. It's not all to all people. The Charger Scat Pack is comfortable. If you've sat in one, you know it. If you've driven one, you know it. But at the same time, the Camaro is comfortable to sit in as well. As in, the seats are comfortable. When it comes to the ride quality, I kind of have to agree with the guy in the video...but for the Charger Scat Pack. It feels like a full sized sports/luxury sedan. Whereas the Camaro doesn't really "settle" down. But hey, why should it? When I test drove a '16 2SS, it was like cruise really just meant go the same speed...it didn't mean settle down and get comfy for your long ride ahead. You could feel the bumps a lot more in the Camaro...and that's in tour mode. Not saying it was like driving an old '67....but it just had a very different presence....one most likely bred from the fact that the Camaro is now, very much a sports car, not a cruiser or a straight line car. That is very good for a lot of people. I just don't know if it's for me. Thing is...I'm not saying it isn't for me...I just haven't made up my mind yet. I have loved Chevrolet since I was little kid...and what they've done with the Camaro and Corvette is amazing. I'm a huge fan of both cars, but I want to get the car that best fits my personality and driving style. Like you said, if I'm only at the track once a month or less...what's the point in solely focusing on track performance? Do I want quick? Yes. Do I want fast? Yes. But does it have to be the absolute best of both? No...because in 2 years, it won't be anyway...even if it is now. And I plan to enjoy my car for a lot longer than 2 years. |
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Thanks for the responses. I feel like we are both on the same page. I will say, in regards to UConnect and Performance Pages...yes, it takes forever to load. That would be the menu that I would say makes you feel like the system is archaic because if you don't realize what all it's doing in the background you can feel like it's some old Windows 3.11 box or something. Either way, I agree with most of what you said and I think I'll just have to go drive them both again come April/May and figure out which I prefer.
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Out of all the modern cars I've had I got the most crowd appeal in my 2010 Challenger SRT8 than my 2006, 10, 13 Mustang GT or 2012 Camaro SS combined. Strangely enough I get quite a bit of crowd appeal with my 2014 SS Sedan, probably because most don't know what it is or think it's a Malibu and it has the meanest sounding startup stock than anything I've owned. The 2016 Camaro SS sounds almost as good. I see a 2017 Camaro in my future....
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