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Old 12-14-2015, 01:55 PM   #29
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Oh Yeah, not something that can be done on jackstands for sure.

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Ugh... Well, that helps determine my build direction! FI, it is! Thanksguys.
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Old 12-14-2015, 01:56 PM   #30
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DYNO SHEET ADDED

Bone stock vs ARH 1 7/8 LT headers w Cats

NO Tuning

Stock Air box.
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Old 12-14-2015, 01:57 PM   #31
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Ugh... Well, that helps determine my build direction! FI, it is! Thanksguys.
F/I needs Headers too
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Old 12-14-2015, 03:03 PM   #32
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Nothing like 400ft lbs hitting you at 2400rpm.
Thats 1000rpm sooner than stock. Nice.
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Old 12-14-2015, 10:19 PM   #33
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Can you post pics of the stick stuff you pulled off?
Meant stock!!
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:59 AM   #34
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Meant stock!!
Here you go.
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Old 12-15-2015, 10:49 AM   #35
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Awesome! its crazy to see how fast these parts are being developed for these cars. I haven't even seen one yet. Keep it up!

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Dude you are not working with ARH, they already have these. You paid for these headers like everybody else,it's not cool to misrepresent like that and I'm sure ARH would not like knowing you claim this without their knowledge.
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Old 12-15-2015, 11:51 AM   #36
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Hmmm. Interesting. Only 16rwhp/16rwtq from swapping out the stock manifolds and four-catalytic converter system to full longtubes and high flow cats speak VERY WELL to the design of the Camaro's tri-y style stock manifolds. People have been wondering why the Camaro 6 is dynoing so much higher than the Stingray. Maybe the stock manifolds on the Camaro are really good.

Considering simply adding Solo HFC's on the 5th Gen was good for 15rwhp with no tune, I find it really impressive that converting over to an entire new longtube system is only worth 16rwhp on a 6th Gen. That's awesome.
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Old 12-15-2015, 11:54 AM   #37
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Hmmm. Interesting. Only 16rwhp/16rwtq from swapping out the stock manifolds and four-catalytic converter system to full longtubes and high flow cats speak VERY WELL to the design of the Camaro's tri-y style stock manifolds. People have been wondering why the Camaro 6 is dynoing so much higher than the Stingray. Maybe the stock manifolds on the Camaro are really good.

Considering simply adding Solo HFC's on the 5th Gen was good for 15rwhp with no tune, I find it really impressive that converting over to an entire new longtube system is only worth 16rwhp on a 6th Gen. That's awesome.
Gains will be larger from the headers swap when combined with other mods like Cold air kit.

Currently the stock air box is a pretty good Choke on air flow.

The headers are doing a great job of getting it out but there is still a restriction on getting air in.

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Old 12-15-2015, 01:51 PM   #38
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Thank you for your research! Will be interesting to see this with a CAI and a tune what it puts down. It would be very impressive seeing another 50 ft lbs to the rear wheels. Optimistic I know but 500 lb ft of torque from a mostly stock DD camaro is bad ass!
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Old 12-15-2015, 01:53 PM   #39
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Thank you for your research! Will be interesting to see this with a CAI and a tune what it puts down. It would be very impressive seeing another 50 ft lbs to the rear wheels. Optimistic I know but 500 lb ft of torque from a mostly stock DD camaro is bad ass!
Yeah that's not going to happen.

I expect another 10-15 with the Air box freeing up some restriction.

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Old 12-15-2015, 02:06 PM   #40
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Yeah that's not going to happen.

I expect another 10-15 with the Air box freeing up some restriction.

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Wow. 50ftlbs at the back with an air filter. That would be like curing cancer.
Hahaha....
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Old 12-15-2015, 04:29 PM   #41
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Not just an air filter but the tune to tie in the exhaust and restrictive air intake. This is putting down close to 450 wheel ft lbs torque with just a header. Look at the graph. I do not think I am so far off the numbers. Throw in a new cam and I think it is possible. Either way you look at it just doing those mods will be impressive numbers out of a NA engine.

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Old 12-15-2015, 08:01 PM   #42
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And so many guys said there would be nothing left to gain with long tubes because of the better manifold on the camaro. I guess this ends that debate. I'd like to see what it could do with an off-road pipe instead of cats. Maybe it could hit 20hp/20lbft. We're you able to get a weight difference between stock and aftermarket?
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