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Everyone considers price, some have benefited more from the recent massive run up in stocks so $100k is no big seal. Buddy of mine is up $400k in the last year alone
if you're going to lease or only keep a car a short time, you probably don't care about these high stress engines running 20+ psi (and inability to work on it yourself). I would have nightmares about intakes slathered in blowby, loss of compression, and no place to install a catch can. There needs to be more studies on how fast these high boost engines start to lose compression. 15 years ago 10 psi was the standard, now everyone is running 20+. The LT4 is relatively low stress by comparison (stock of course) |
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I had a 13 M5, a 16 M5, 18 M3 and now a 20 x3m. Those things were great roll run runners. Whatever happens in 10 years is not my problem. Good or bad.
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Just twice the price...
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02-18-2021, 04:08 PM | #32 |
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The point? Maybe some can afford it. And have family and different cars at the same time. These threads always turn into hate. Why can’t we all enjoy our love of speed. Man.
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I dont see the "Just twice the price" comment indicating any hate, it's an interesting fact about something that's new in my experience. You used to have to spend well over $100k for a 911 Turbo or M5 to get big power and great handling, and now with the ZL1 it's a bargain. It changes the value proposition for people who can't, or don't want to, spend that kind of money on a car. Now they can have similar or better performance for a fraction of the cost, 5 years ago this was not an option.
Yes, the European cars have better interiors, styling, and extra bells and whistles available, but I'm only interested in raw excitement and track performance so my ZLE fits the bill. I would like a 911 Turbo, but they are so damn expensive now and with track days, skiing and other travel it's hard to justify. |
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I have a ZL1 and a BMW 2020 M340I. The BMW is a great daily driver and makes plenty of power to just get around town. I say get both.
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The new M5 is awesome. The ZL1 is awesome. But they are 2 totally different cars in almost all ways possible.
So if that is the case I suggest your buddy go drive an Audi RS6 and report back. A shitton better than that M5 - well, IMHO EDIT or an E63s for that matter. EDIT EDIT - I say all this while spending some other rich dude's money EDIT EDIT EDIT - ~11:30! Last edited by FarmerFran; 02-18-2021 at 08:24 PM. |
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Moreover, my point was that I haven’t really found Euro interiors and “bells and whistles” to be any better than the ZL1s. |
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[QUOTE=FarmerFran;10957921]The new M5 is awesome. The ZL1 is awesome. But they are 2 totally different cars in almost all ways possible.
So if that is the case I suggest your buddy go drive an Audi RS6 and report back. A shitton better than that M5 - well, IMHO EDIT or an E63s for that matter. EDIT EDIT - I say all this while spending some other rich dude's money EDIT EDIT EDIT - ~11:30! The new RS7 is fire too.
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