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Look what Ford does for the Mustang. Look what Dodge does for the Challenger and Charger. The only thing keeping GM from doing the same thing for the Camaro is the Corvette. We can’t get a 700+ hp Camaro because of the Corvette. We can’t get a 500+ n/a Camaro because of the Corvette.
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05-24-2019, 11:53 AM | #30 | |
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He also said the SS would get a defined version of the LT1.
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And I said the LT1 probably wouldn’t be rated the same as the Corvette. The LT1 in the Camaro actually made 458 horsepower, but they rated it 455. Now why would GM willingly rate the Camaro at a lower horsepower rating? Gee, what could it be?
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Alpha SS 1LE is the greatest performance bargain of all time. The SS was a game changer in 2016. The gen6 Camaro sent Ford engineers back to the drawing board
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GM engineering is unrivaled, in my opinion. That doesn’t change the fact that GM would never attempt anything like the Voodoo, especially not for the Camaro. That’s what frustrates me as a GM fan. They have all this engineering excellence but the best they can do is a 6.2, a 6.2 with a blower and another 6.2 with a bigger blower? And those two blown 6.2s don’t even rival other blown 6.2s from other companies.
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What would the ZL1 have run with 700 horsepower? How about 750 horsepower? Imagine a ZL1 1LE running a 7:0X.XX on the Ring. But we won’t get that.
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LT2 vs LT5
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I think he’s just salty that the sixth gen is so damn good. I’m guessing he’s pissed that the C8 is mid engine and that the Camaro should have been first to ME. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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05-24-2019, 12:57 PM | #37 | |
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The LT-1 in the Corvette is rated at 460, in the camaro its 455. yes its only 5 hp, and yes they probably both are 460, yet GM still rates it higher in the Corvette. That still pisses me off lol. GM took the C6 back 4 different times to get better lap times. Yet not one C7 lap time. |
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The Mustang is their only big car, and it shares motors with multiple vehicles.
They really only started doing this once the decision to axe the Viper came down. Prior to that decision, the Viper was king and nothing exceeded it in performance. Even with a Hellcat motor outperforming the V10, they still opted to keep it that way (when really a Hellcat/Demon powered Viper would have been AWESOME!) Quote:
With the addition of the new C8, I would expect to see the Camaro finally get its own new toys....but there is no way they are dropping an LT5 into the current ZL1. They wont name a blown motor Camaro a Z/28...because that Heritage means something to them.. More to the point, and the single biggest point, it would make far more sense for them to go all nutjob like the Demon and label it a C.O.P.O Camaro....and yes, this is both accurate and historical..
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Bottom line - Chevy gave Camaro everything it had. They emphasized performance to the detriment of sales (no half hearted V8 like the coming 2020 LT1 trim). No way you can say they held it back. No way.
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We know how it works. GM develops engines, transmissions and platforms for the group. Camaro benefits from equipment developed for the best the have at the time. All of the gen6 components were released in Corvette and CTS variants starting in 2014. The car has been nothing but amazing.
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EDIT - looks like the Chevy website is a little deceiving. On the 18 model year it says available 460HP, 19 just says 460 HP and when you break down the specs in the website it says this in one spot "6.2L V8 DI engine Standard 460 hp @ 6000 rpm 465 lb-ft of torque @ 4600 rpm 0-601 in 3.6 seconds with available 8-speed paddle-shift automatic and Z07 Performance Package Variable Valve Timing 1 Based on initial vehicle movement., 1 Based on initial vehicle movement." But this in another spot * Requires performance exhaust or Z51 package I'm not saying they held/hold it back per se just that they haven't let it play with all the toys in the chest yet and history has shown they don't/ won't Quote:
Meanwhile, across town Ford is willing to pump out two year special editions with unique engines or constantly tweak and upgrade (12/13 BOSS 302, 13/14GT500, 18/19 BULLITT) Dodge bumping up the Hellcat to 717, redeye. I guess the most frustrating part is knowing GM can but won't until it fits what Corvette needs |
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Camaro will be getting the LT5 but will likely need taller gears in the A10 so the car can hook.
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