[Hard Parker]

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[EDFHOBBIES]

Originally Posted by Jonru

I want to see that 60 to 130 draggy and compare it to my last one. I’m also M6 H/c Maggy 2650. Let’s see If you can beat my time.

Maybe what tire u on and what was outside temp?

[ShockingZ]

Only reason I'd want the eddy would be for the port injection spots already being there. Thats a big help. But it would be at the sacrifice of a bit of efficiency no matter what kong tells you.

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by ShockingZ

Only reason I'd want the eddy would be for the port injection spots already being there. Thats a big help. But it would be at the sacrifice of a bit of efficiency no matter what kong tells you.

I think the new discussion needs to be Maggie 2650 vs Whipple 3.0…!

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

I think the new discussion needs to be Maggie 2650 vs Whipple 3.0…!

And the Eddie 2650. I just made 1031/1004 on race gas this week. No meth, no eth, no N2O.

[EDFHOBBIES]

Originally Posted by ShockingZ

Only reason I'd want the eddy would be for the port injection spots already being there. Thats a big help. But it would be at the sacrifice of a bit of efficiency no matter what kong tells you.

Show me a maggi set up running a 8.3 lower and 3 upper at 1050 consistent and a1067 cold glory run. You saw Ted jannetty with xdi setup he needed a 10 inch lower and same upper to bust it and its all Di. A DI setup is way more efficient than and can tuner higher than port. Ya all dynos are different and just a tool. if I had a A10 I would invest a lot into the a trans, toss the swaybar, put welds on, take all the camber out, lose some weight. Setup on meth like maggie team and come on here saying we are the best. But, no one has invested time and money into an Eddy like that. However the mustangs are the Eddy mustangs kick the crap out of maggi all the time.

The real truth is there terrible sales tactics. Edelbrock doesn't need to come on here and troll. I have no relations w them but I don't like mishandled information that's not proven by a third party. And I don't like Mike and his butt buddies telling me and the average guy doesn't need port when I'm doing something good. Now low and behold we have port spacers. Then I'm told well the maggi you don't have to cut the hood.. well now if you want the port spacer your cutting the hood or your can buy an 1100 buck hood. So many lies. You can look it up if it's not deleted on my threads or this one. It's all true.

It boils down now to your over 11k for their blower, spacers, 112mm tb snout, and lid... that's not even counting different valve covers.

I paid 4400 for mine 600 to crawford and 800 to Kong. I'll settle for a little inefficiency.

Anyhow it's no biggie I keep saying the same stuff. I'm selling my car anyhow and getting a c8 z06. So you don't have to hear it any more

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by JSH

And the Eddie 2650. I just made 1031/1004 on race gas this week. No meth, no eth, no N2O.

So you’re only 300 HP behind ZL1Atlanta, right…? Honest question! I’m dead serious.

Your corrected 1031 is less than a 100 HP more than my 4 year old Whipple 2.9 and you’re spinning your blower way harder than I am. I’m also no meth, no N20, and no race gas (only E50 too). Kong offered me a ported Eddie 2650 for less than the 3.0 costs me but I think the 3.0 will be a good bit stronger so I’m going to give the new 3.0 a try. I guess we’ll see.

1031 is awesome and I don’t want to downplay it. You should be proud of your cars output! But we need to really think about what a max effort Maggie, Eddie, and new 3.0 will look like. I don’t think the Eddie is at the same level. Just my 2 cents which means nothing lol!

[EDFHOBBIES]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

So you’re only 300 HP behind ZL1Atlanta, right…? Honest question! I’m dead serious.

Your corrected 1031 is less than a 100 HP more than my 4 year old Whipple 2.9 and you’re spinning your blower way harder than I am. I’m also no meth, no N20, and no race gas (only E50 too). Kong offered me a ported Eddie 2650 for less than the 3.0 costs me but I think the 3.0 will be a good bit stronger so I’m going to give the new 3.0 a try. I guess we’ll see.

1031 is awesome and I don’t want to downplay it. You should be proud of your cars output! But we need to really think about what a max effort Maggie, Eddie, and new 3.0 will look like. I don’t think the Eddie is at the same level. Just my 2 cents which means nothing lol!

Stock block..

How do you figure spinning harder?

[ShockingZ]

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

Show me a maggi set up running a 8.3 lower and 3 upper at 1050 consistent and a1067 cold glory run. You saw Ted jannetty with xdi setup he needed a 10 inch lower and same upper to bust it and its all Di. A DI setup is way more efficient than and can tuner higher than port. Ya all dynos are different and just a tool. if I had a A10 I would invest a lot into the a trans, toss the swaybar, put welds on, take all the camber out, lose some weight. Setup on meth like maggie team and come on here saying we are the best. But, no one has invested time and money into an Eddy like that. However the mustangs are the Eddy mustangs kick the crap out of maggi all the time.

The real truth is there terrible sales tactics. Edelbrock doesn't need to come on here and troll. I have no relations w them but I don't like mishandled information that's not proven by a third party. And I don't like Mike and his butt buddies telling me and the average guy doesn't need port when I'm doing something good. Now low and behold we have port spacers. Then I'm told well the maggi you don't have to cut the hood.. well now if you want the port spacer your cutting the hood or your can buy an 1100 buck hood. So many lies. You can look it up if it's not deleted on my threads or this one. It's all true.

It boils down now to your over 11k for their blower, spacers, 112mm tb snout, and lid... that's not even counting different valve covers.

I paid 4400 for mine 600 to crawford and 800 to Kong. I'll settle for a little inefficiency.

Anyhow it's no biggie I keep saying the same stuff. I'm selling my car anyhow and getting a c8 z06. So you don't have to hear it any more

Toohighpsi has a new billet Maggie lid that’s shorter and allows for the plates without cutting the hood now. Oops. Lol

https://toohighpsi.com/products/tooh...percharger-lid

“Our new billet lid allows the TVS2650 "LP" port plates to fit on your C7 Z06 or 6th gen ZL1 without any hood cutting. Get the fuel you need without modifying your hood!

This billet lid is CNC machined in house from USA sourced 6061-T6 stock and features a low-profile design to clear the Z06 and ZL1 hoods when using "LP" port plates.

The THP Performance lid has been carefully engineered to reduce the height of the supercharger yet provides a 7% increase in the area above the Supercharger Outlet Port and weighs nearly 3 lbs. less than factory lid. The sleek design eliminates the thick ribbing found on the stock cast Magnuson lid, allowing you to hear a significant increase in desirable supercharger whine.“

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

So you’re only 300 HP behind ZL1Atlanta, right…? Honest question! I’m dead serious.

Oh, your asking why a custom built 427 dedicated race engine makes more than my 376 DD? 😂

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by EDFHOBBIES

Stock block..

How do you figure spinning harder?

He’s at 22,699 RPMs at 6800 RPM, I’m at 19,353 RPM. So he’s spinning a good bit harder.

Originally Posted by JSH

Oh, your asking why a custom built 427 dedicated race engine makes more than my 376 DD? ��

So you’re saying 51 cubic inches explains away 300+ WHP difference?!? Besides, your blower is ported by Kong the same as his. They’re air pumps, that’s it, and airflow directly correlates with torque (which is exactly how our torque-based ECM engines are tuned by GM, as you know). If the Eddie moves similar air, it’ll make similar power. But it’s not. We’re talking a 30 lb/hr difference vs the Maggie…that’s huge.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

He’s at 22,699 RPMs at 6800 RPM, I’m at 19,353 RPM. So he’s spinning a good bit harder.

So you’re saying 51 cubic inches explains away 300+ WHP difference?!? Besides, your blower is ported by Kong the same as his. They’re air pumps, that’s it, and airflow directly correlates with torque (which is exactly how our torque-based ECM engines are tuned by GM, as you know). If the Eddie moves similar air, it’ll make similar power. But it’s not. We’re talking a 30 lb/hr difference vs the Maggie…that’s huge.

Come on man, the additional cid is probably 150hp and I could explain the balance if Jason would give us the details of his engine, fuel, tune, custom built trans, etc.which is highly unlikely. You're comparing a race car to a DD, which is totally unreasonable. If I wanted a top 5 LT4, I would own one, but I don't. I've done the "fastest race car" thing and it's a very very expensive hobby that I can no longer afford.

[EDFHOBBIES]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

He’s at 22,699 RPMs at 6800 RPM, I’m at 19,353 RPM. So he’s spinning a good bit harder.



So you’re saying 51 cubic inches explains away 300+ WHP difference?!? Besides, your blower is ported by Kong the same as his. They’re air pumps, that’s it, and airflow directly correlates with torque (which is exactly how our torque-based ECM engines are tuned by GM, as you know). If the Eddie moves similar air, it’ll make similar power. But it’s not. We’re talking a 30 lb/hr difference vs the Maggie…that’s huge.

What are the pulley combos for both units

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by JSH

Come on man, the additional cid is probably 150hp and I could explain the balance if Jason would give us the details of his engine, fuel, tune, custom built trans, etc.which is highly unlikely. You're comparing a race car to a DD, which is totally unreasonable. If I wanted a top 5 LT4, I would own one, but I don't. I've done the "fastest race car" thing and it's a very very expensive hobby that I can no longer afford.

You’re missing the point. This thread is about blowers and which one is better. The answer is the one that moves more airflow with the least parasitic loss. We’ve seen drag runs of 376 cid cars vs 406 cid cars with the same blower and the 376 car is faster. More stroke does NOT help PD cars! It adds more low & midrange torque which makes it difficult to hook and does not correlate with top end HP. My argument is the Kong ported Maggie is moving a lot more air than the Kong ported Eddie. As an engineer by trade, I look at air and water flow rates for my job every single day. I’d be happy to be proven wrong but I’m not seeing it so far. And since I don’t own either one, I can be objective about it. Hell, my Whipple 2.9 is worse than both of them! I can be honest about that too. Although I hope the 3.0 changes that scenario.