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No biggie either way, The point was the C8 is likely going to cover the 1/4 mi faster then 11.7. I don't see how it can accelerate 1.2 seconds quicker to 60 mph but only be 7 tenths quicker in the 1/4 mile based on the 11.7 claim. 1 tenth reduction in 0-60 always translates to 1 tenth reduction in the 1/4 in any vehicle I have ever tested. Yes 2.8 for the Z51 and low 3 second for base C8.
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You are really suffering from MEDS (mid-engine derangement syndrome). It tells you that the Z51 and even the base with summer tires can destroy just about any car on the planet... Wa It is a game-changer what is so hard for you to grasp. The price came in 5k to 10K cheaper than I thought the performance 0-60 is in the supercar range and IT WILL DESTROY YOUR RIDE... why can't you deal with it? It is a great car and GM really pulled off a coup. Quote:
I highly doubt C8 owners getting the base or the Z51 will be racing ZL! 1LE anytime soon or even care. You just don't get it. Very few people care if some ZL1 !LE it "faster". There is always faster. I'd take a silver C8 any day even on race day. It is that great. I would guess like 75% of the ZL1 1LE owners today would even trade in their rides for the first production C8s with Z51..... For me I would even think about a ZL1 anything now the C8 is out...
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I will add the biggest difference between the base and the Z51's 0-60 is the tire. cuase bigger brakes and more cooling, and stiffer springs and heavier shocks (magride) don't do anything for 0-60 times. The only "other things" that may help the Z51 is 5 HP from the exhaust and MAYBE a slight (assumed) gear ratio for this type of performace.
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There is a SCCA track night in your area in October you should go , track days are growing every year and people wanting to driver their car on a track is huge, don't underestimate Corvette people , they are not all over 60 and just drive their cars to get a new box of cigars. |
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So you are saying spending needless money on a Boxster that offers poorer performance in every way makes the Boxster a "great car". You better check you are driving a Chevy.. aka poor man's performance car. Obviously, if you have MEDS or are on MEDS, you feel you need to spend copious bucks and click-off every option to be off MEDS... Let's see gorgeous, check, mid-engine,, check check, supercar 0-60 check, probably handles better than a Camaro from street to race, check check check, sold out in a week check check check... I guess you waiting for the sub 50K one that can beat the C7R???? No with MEDS you probably say, wow that too cheap, I may get in trouble or enter a mid-life crisis too soon. Quote:
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It would be my estimate that less than 1% of the Vette people ever race more than a few events over the car's entire life. How's that for an estimate? Probably .3% of the c8 owners will ever go as far as getting a decent set of autoX or road race tires for their ride. I'd say about 5% actually make their buying decision based on any handling test or even speculation of such, which means that color choice is more of a decision-maker for them. Hench the C8 has buku colors, wheel colors, brake colors, carbon fiber wiz bangers, seat styles at launch and scant information on actual performance... guess what: THE CAR SOLD OUT....
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Dude, they would have been "sold out" on an order of one as there are none to sell as of yet. When one or more are produced they will have been already sold.
To say that there may be a chance to order a car, or more correctly one may be able to pre-order a car that may or may not be delivered within the next year means it is not "sold-out" great. My gut says if you ain't got your toe in the water now the chances of you rolling a C8 at MSRP over the next year is as good as winning the next lotto.
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I guess i live in an area where people do use their performance cars for other than parking them and looking at them . I see cars from S&W Performance going past the shop or Phoenix Performance which those guys know a good bit about racing Corvettes and Camaros and i have to say that Joe Aquilante is one of the nicest guys you could ever meet . Auto X is huge, was a small time deal 10 years ago and look at it now . More and more people are getting to drive performance events and falling in love with it . So you can have your C8 and i'll pass , for now. |
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If that is what you are talking about, great, I can assume you that 99.9% of the C8 Base nor the Z51 buyer is thinking of cross-shopping a Zl1 1LE Camaro.... Happy now??? I will note that you have FINALLY stopped talking about how your 1LE is going to destroy C8, and now you are racing somebody else fictional unicorn on pin ZL1 1LE ...too funny, it is like saying your dad can beat mine .... great. Please write this in inverse print and put on your forehead, so if you need it, look into the rearview mirror: "note to self don't get into any contest of performance with high heeled admin assistants in C8... ego can't take it... self out" I can assure you central Texas is alive and well when it comes to people driving performance cars street or track. I can tell you that i'm on my 4th set of tires under 20K miles... My Type R is probably on its 30 sets of Dirizzza how many tires does your "race car" go through
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