01-27-2023, 07:57 PM | #337 | |
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As far as EV trucks go, in half ton trim, the vast majority of trucks sold each year never tow a thing. At least for the original owners. They are used like bigger taller fully loaded cars. For those that do need to tow, 3/4 ton trucks will be among the last vehicles to convert to EV. You and I might be expired or too vegged out to drive when that occurs. But at the same time, commercial EV vans are a big freakin’ deal right now. As I type this I just finished a bunch of meetings with a vehicle brand that you would recognize if I named them. What were we discussing? Very large EVs that they will be bringing to market in a few years. Very large.
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01-27-2023, 08:08 PM | #338 | |
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There will be sound with the Banshee, but it’s not faked. Why they chose to try to “simulate” it for the reveal is beyond me. To improve the handling of Banshee, Dodge has engineered baffles under the car to direct the air and keep the car planted. Very similar to what Chevrolet does with C8. They also channel the sound of that air flowing through the baffles to generate an engine-like sound. That sound changes in pitch and tone as the vehicle increases speed, so it naturally sounds like an engine revving. At highway speeds it’s as loud as a Hemi. Because the car they showed at the reveal could only crawl at about 5 mph, they piped in the sound. I still can’t figure out who would have ok’d that plan. The result was very predictable and now they have to dig out of a hole to get anybody to take the real sound seriously.
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Solar panels on the RV and an RV specific PowerWall would be nice though. Then when I’m home I’ll roll out the Camaro or a GT500. |
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01-28-2023, 04:56 AM | #341 |
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Sorry, but I’ve resolved not to purchase vehicles from manufacturers that have committed to an all EV lineup.
I’ve always preferred Ford trucks over GM trucks anyway, so that’s an easy decision. They may commit to all EV in the US at some point but so far they’re only doing that in Europe. |
01-28-2023, 08:23 AM | #342 |
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01-28-2023, 01:47 PM | #344 |
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01-28-2023, 03:15 PM | #345 | |
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That reveal and the subsequent fake engine revving sound on the Banshee was one of the worst ideas I've ever seen, way worse than the S650 Mustang reveal where they were bragging about remote rev and an electronic handle parking brake and drift mode. Both were cringe-worthy, but the Banshee definitely takes the cake.
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I don't mind the idea of EVs for daily driving in town, assuming houses and apartment complexes have adequate charging stations and obviously, the infrastructure is there to support it all. I am against governments phasing out new ICEs. This is causing manufacturers to mostly abandon new ICE development, so we are at peak ICE efficiency but probably won't get any better. Whereas, if gov't wasn't phasing out ICEs, then we'd continue to get modern ICE development and better and better fuel mileage and efficiency. That said, EVs still aren't ready for the big leagues:
http://https://www.motortrend.com/re...ric-test-cars/ I think the hold-up is many people only compare greenhouse gas emissions of EVs vs ICE. Sort of how the EU went on the diesel bandwagon a while ago and then discovered that diesels are so much dirtier than ICEs in every other measure besides carbon emissions, that they aren't improving air quality at all. EVs are so much more efficient than ICEs, that even with 50% coal, they are better from a greenhouse gas perspective than an ICE when comparing a new EV car to a new ICE car. That said, I think the jury is still out on overall environmental impact of BEVs vs ICE, which factors in way more than just greenhouse gas, which very well could be worse than ICEs, due to the huge battery packs. 2000+ lbs worth of batteries in a Rivian is nuts. Overall, I am very sad to see the end of modern ICE development drawing near, as EVs have no soul. Sure, a Model S Plaid is fast in a straight line, and I've ridden in one, but its soulless.
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01-28-2023, 04:34 PM | #347 | |
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The Volt was $1,200/kwh The Bolt is $246/kwh in 2017 then down to $145/kwh The Ultium batteries are down to $100/kwh. And governments aren't forcing the abandonment of ICE development. Playing a factor? Sure, but already posted here that GM went full EV back in 2017 well before CA's ban of new ICE sales by 2035. Automakers are moving in that direction on their own. But you're right, we are not ready to go full EV today. 15 years from now? 20 years from now? A lot can change with the proper investments. |
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01-28-2023, 05:58 PM | #348 |
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Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago economists estimate that in the short run an increase in the CAFE standards costs US consumers $6.5 billion in value even after accounting for improved fuel efficiency. Over that same period the change reduces US manufacturers profits by $9.1billion. In the long run those costs rise significantly and are shifted more to the consumers. They also found that foreign manufacturers profits are largely unaffected by increased CAFE standards.
They also found that increased fuel efficiency due to CAFE standards incentivizes Americans to drive more resulting in increased negative externalities (pollution, congestion, accidents etc.) amounting to almost $2.10 of negative externalities per gallon. Increased accidents due to more frequent driving by itself offsets 95% of the benefits of CAFE standards. So yes, government is not only very much A factor in the shift to EVs, it is overwhelmingly THE primary factor. The CAFE standards alone cost US manufacturers and citizens billions of dollars every year while at the same time making us less competitive, increasing the number of accidents, increasing congestion and yielding negligible to zero benefits. Don’t believe me? Here’s the study. https://www.mackinac.org/S2022-06 There’s tons more data proving the point. It’s dense, and I’m a bit of a data nerd, but this is what I used to do for a living. |
01-28-2023, 06:06 PM | #349 |
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All the name calling and telling me to shut up and go away doesn’t change the facts.
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01-28-2023, 06:08 PM | #350 |
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We can address what lighter vehicles and increased driving does to fatality rates later, and no, the increased weight due to batteries doesn’t make you safer.
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