[Waiting46]

Originally Posted by Whitespeed

If you're going with a factory tuned track suspension setup, why not include MRC? Should be a definite performance advantage. Its not just about comfort.

Nigel

Because its illegal in a lot of the amateur racing circuits.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Waiting46

If Im spending 45-50k on a car, I want better than "Fine". Im willing to wait a little and see what the 1LE has, if it doesn't have MRC Ill get an SS with MRC, but imho Itd be a mistake not to offer the option.

Everything is a compromise. The SS is better for the street but not as good on the track. The 1LE is better on the track but not as comfortable on the street. GM has said this and that's why they build multiple models and options.

Originally Posted by Whitespeed

If you're going with a factory tuned track suspension setup, why not include MRC? Should be a definite performance advantage. Its not just about comfort.

Nigel

MRC makes a street suspension work better on the track. It doesn't make a street suspension a track suspension.

[6spdhyperblue]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

MRC makes a street suspension work better on the track. It doesn't make a street suspension a track suspension.

man Z06 and 911 GT3 owners must be pissed.

Originally Posted by Waiting46

Because its illegal in a lot of the amateur racing circuits.

[Waiting46]

Originally Posted by Nicul15

man Z06 and 911 GT3 owners must be pissed.

Theyre racing in circuits where its not illegal /shrugs

That's why I keep saying option. Let the people that will use the car for tracking use it in the class it should be in, those of us that wont use the car to compete, can enjoy the car a little more.

Part of me wouldn't be surprised to see a 1LE/2LE break down, with one being more track focused, one being more street focused, but that starts to add too many SKUs

[SS 1LE]

After all this talk and debate, if this car doesn't debut at Chicago next week I am going to scream lol...

[Gen_Nick3.8]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

But remember folks...an SS with the 1LE package (if priced like last year $3500) will start at about $41,000 (base SS is just over $37,000 with destination)...not $54,000 like you said. Yeah, if people want to check every option box it could get that high, but getting a 1LE, and then getting all the techno gadgets and doodads IMO would make zero sense.

Why? Its 2016 I want all the tech and comfort while having a car that can pull 1.10+ G in a corner

[6spdhyperblue]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

After all this talk and debate, if this car doesn't debut at Chicago next week I am going to scream lol...

hahah

[Gen_Nick3.8]

Might get hate for this but I prefer DSSV dampers instead of Magnetic Ride. Maybe they will offer both as an option.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by Gen_Nick3.8

Why? Its 2016 I want all the tech and comfort while having a car that can pull 1.10+ G in a corner

The 1LE is a track pack, all these gadgets and gizmos add weight...I hope GM actually blocks some goofy options from the 1LE like they did for the Z28. IMO, if you want all that stuff, just buy an SS.

Originally Posted by Gen_Nick3.8

Might get hate for this but I prefer DSSV dampers instead of Magnetic Ride. Maybe they will offer both as an option.

I agree. MRC is great, but for a track focused car I'd rather DSSV as well...

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Nicul15

have to do it...


source???


I thought DSSV has the similar pros/cons with less weight but more expense.

MRC can control "valving" independent from damper speed and damper position. also control each shock independent from each other.
If that can't provide better feedback on a track, they're doing it wrong.

See the link that was provided.

In short: Mag Ride is an active suspension, which means it changes depending on a myriad of variables. Competitive racers hate that. They want to be able to predict their vehicle's motions, and responses reliably. DSSV is tuned dampers to the utmost of accuracy capable in a street car, today. DSSV is *not* dynamic, nor electronic...it doesn't adjust.

I don't think they're significantly more or less heavy than MRC, either. I'd be curious to know...

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

After all this talk and debate, if this car doesn't debut at Chicago next week I am going to scream lol...

It will. Don't worry.

Originally Posted by Gen_Nick3.8

Might get hate for this but I prefer DSSV dampers instead of Magnetic Ride. Maybe they will offer both as an option.

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

The 1LE is a track pack, all these gadgets and gizmos add weight...I hope GM actually blocks some goofy options from the 1LE like they did for the Z28. IMO, if you want all that stuff, just buy an SS.

I agree. MRC is great, but for a track focused car I'd rather DSSV as well...

I've had both...and I like both equally for different reasons. If someone made me choose right now, I'd probably opt for MRC because ultimately while I track the car regularly...it lives 95% of its life as my daily driver.

DSSV tuning would incur very high expenses...not to mention the option alone might be nearly as much as the 1LE package, itself!

In terms of weight/options - one of the best things I like about my 1LE, and why I wouldn't have gone out of my way to get a Z/28 is because I like all the luxury items for my daily driving. And I like the 1LE capabilities when I bring that same car to the track for some fun.

Being able to opt for a 2SS AND get the track tuning from 1LE made my day. This is an easy option to give people, and harms no one.

[mjk3888]

I have a sneaking suspicion that they are with holding lap time prepped cars for the release of the 1LE. They really liked using the 5th gen 1LE for all the magazine comparisons once it was released.

[Gen_Nick3.8]

Originally Posted by SUMMIT WHITE SS

The 1LE is a track pack, all these gadgets and gizmos add weight...I hope GM actually blocks some goofy options from the 1LE like they did for the Z28. IMO, if you want all that stuff, just buy an SS.



I agree. MRC is great, but for a track focused car I'd rather DSSV as well...

My 1LE is my DD and I track it, I'm glad that my 1LE comes with creature comforts.

[6spdhyperblue]

magride...just sayin

[Memphis43]

Originally Posted by Waiting46

Because its illegal in a lot of the amateur racing circuits.

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