[Camarolover85]

Originally Posted by enzia35

My Miata laughs at not being a "real sports car."

And I laugh at miatas, nothing more awesome than a Miata clown car. Miatas are about as cool as a PT Cruiser with fake wooden doors.

[Need4Camaro]

This debate will never end will it...

[Nsxmatt]

Originally Posted by Camarolover85

And I laugh at miatas, nothing more awesome than a Miata clown car. Miatas are about as cool as a PT Cruiser with fake wooden doors.

We get it, you have insecurity issues. And judging by the incident where you got your headlight broken during road rage and just sat there and wet your pants and got a ticket I can see why. It's ok, you were picked on as a kid, calm down it will be fine.

[SecondZ28]

Originally Posted by Camarolover85

Real sports cars don’t have 4 cylinder engines. I have a V6...

...unless they’re true sports cars (WRX

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Camarolover85

And I laugh at miatas, nothing more awesome than a Miata clown car. Miatas are about as cool as a PT Cruiser with fake wooden doors.

Obviously you've never driven a traditional sports roadster to hold such an "it's-beneath-my-dignity" attitude.


Here's a somewhat more serious 4-cylinder sports car. Only 2.0 liters and normally aspirated, and it eats Porsches for breakfast in the corners (at track days, the owner of this particular car has reportedly beeped the horn at Porsches so they'll let him pass them).




Norm

[DevilsReject97]

Originally Posted by 70montec

I had a 2004 Monte Carlo SS Dale Jr edition with the supercharged 3800 and it was only rated at 240 hp and 280 lbs of torque. I didn't realize that the Grand Prix's of that same year had higher rated horsepower.

I have a dealer brochure for the 2004 Monte Carlo which gives the horsepower figures.

Different engine is why...

Monte's had the L67, which was a Series II motor. The GTP in 2004-2006 had the Series III 3800, L32. Biggest difference was a different supercharger

[Camarolover85]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

Obviously you've never driven a traditional sports roadster to hold such an "it's-beneath-my-dignity" attitude.


Here's a somewhat more serious 4-cylinder sports car. Only 2.0 liters and normally aspirated, and it eats Porsches for breakfast in the corners (at track days, the owner of this particular car has reportedly beeped the horn at Porsches so they'll let him pass them).




Norm

You guys really take your lives too seriously. For the last time: there are lots of sports cars out there. My V6 is considered a sports car but it’s still jut an average everyday driver car. The sports cars that I like are the large impressive ones, not the tiny 4 cylinders with multiple turbos. It’s an opinion, I’m more impressed by the large cars than the small ones. I just don’t take 4 cylinders seriously, you can make anything fast, but I still like the way the large V8’s sound. I don’t really know why you’re all crying so much, get over it.

[Camarolover85]

Originally Posted by Nsxmatt

We get it, you have insecurity issues. And judging by the incident where you got your headlight broken during road rage and just sat there and wet your pants and got a ticket I can see why. It's ok, you were picked on as a kid, calm down it will be fine.

I guess there really isn’t anything to do in Kentucky when you aren’t doing your sister or watching the wildcats. You’re awfully obsessed with me if you stalked my profile that far back or even remember a year old post. I have no idea who you are.

And he paid to fix my car so um, yeah no idea what you’re rambling about.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Camarolover85

The sports cars that I like are the large impressive ones, not the tiny 4 cylinders with multiple turbos. It’s an opinion, I’m more impressed by the large cars than the small ones.

Putting down what you see as "lesser cars" doesn't make the ones you do like any better. Just sayin' . . .


Norm

[Camarolover85]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

Putting down what you see as "lesser cars" doesn't make the ones you do like any better. Just sayin' . . .


Norm

They’re sports cars! For the love of god they’re considered sports cars. I just think the true sports cars are ones that aren’t daily drivers. You guys should just learn to accept that’s my opinion.

[Zack46]

Originally Posted by Camarolover85

They’re sports cars! For the love of god they’re considered sports cars. I just think the true sports cars are ones that aren’t daily drivers. You guys should just learn to accept that’s my opinion.

[pjz1082]

This thread is still going on? OMG people...please let it die!

[autocross]

Originally Posted by pjz1082

This thread is still going on? OMG people...please let it die!

Since it isn’t dead, I might as well guide the topic a little bit since I’ve got another question

Are you all familiar with the Ford Performance Handling Track Pack? It’s apparently a handling kit they sell which is optimized for track people instead of ‘grand tourers’. The review i saw said they were putting down 1.11 G’s in a corner (a picture of the cars display was included to back this up).

Is this better than the camaro ss in terms of handling? Those are some pretty insane numbers.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by autocross

Are you all familiar with the Ford Performance Handling Track Pack? It’s apparently a handling kit they sell which is optimized for track people instead of ‘grand tourers’. The review i saw said they were putting down 1.11 G’s in a corner (a picture of the cars display was included to back this up).

Is this better than the camaro ss in terms of handling?

More of an SS 1LE level package. No ideas concerning any subjective handling comparison, but you'd have to be pushing them both pretty hard to find much difference.

Those are some pretty insane numbers.

Maybe not as hard to come by as you think.


Norm