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Old 08-05-2019, 08:31 PM   #2899
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No you’re not sure , on the contrary you don’t have the slightest clue how long it takes. Now that’s a fact.
Right. Ok bud. Back to ignoring you.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:39 PM   #2900
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None of these times given by Ford, GM, Dodge or any other company can’t be taken seriously until the numbers can be duplicated by independent testers. We’ve all see numbers by manufacturers that seem to not be able to be duplicated.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:43 PM   #2901
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None of these times given by Ford, GM, Dodge or any other company can’t be taken seriously until the numbers can be duplicated by independent testers. We’ve all see numbers by manufacturers that seem to not be able to be duplicated.
For sure I agree with that 100%. Honestly I'm more interested in how much the Z51 option is going to be on the C8 and if I think it is worth it or not.
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Old 08-05-2019, 10:19 PM   #2902
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The Z51 stingray will be under 3 sec to 60, the base car should only be about .2 slower and that would be 3.1 sec to 60. 1/4 mile time should be about the same 11.6 -11.5. The base cars being built will not be low 11 sec cars. Plenty for me also and a ton of other people. The nice thing is about having under 500 hp, is you can use it all on the street and the 1/4 mile for everyday fun. The high powered stuff is hard to manage and is worse on the street in the stoplight action and not a lot better running the 1/4 mile with factory tires.
Your performance predictions are about the same as mine, but the z51s will have a faster 1/4 due to getting out of the hole quicker. In a 60', .2 seconds is roughly .4 in the 1/4. 0-60 is of course a little different.

I believe we will see low 11s from a z51. Mid 11s from a base.
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Old 08-05-2019, 11:57 PM   #2903
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The ZL1 was 11.1 seconds 0-100-0 based on Motor Trend's test, and that same car did 0-100 in 7.4 seconds and 1/4 in 11.5 @ 125 mph. Not bad numbers by any means. Motor Trend tested the C7 ZR1 0-100-0 in 10.4 seconds. And it did 0-100 in 6.6 seconds (and 11.0 @ 131.9 mph (!!) in the 1/4 mile).

Assuming the GT500 time of 10.6 seconds 0-100-0 is true, that's only 2 tenths slower than the ZR1, so the GT500 must be about 6.7 to 6.8 seconds 0-100 mph, and should trap the 1/4 mile around 129-130 mph (closer in acceleration to the ZR1 than the ZL1).
You're using the zr1's 11.0 1/4 test run where the 6.6 0-100 and 10.4 0-100-0 times come from, yet motortrend themselves tested the 1/4 at 10.8 on a ztk package car which posted a 6.3 0-100 run and a 9.7 0-100-0.

9.7 is considerably faster than 10.6.

Also keep in mind that you're using Ford's claim vs motortrend's slowest c7 zr1 and not gm's times. Gm claims 10.6 in the 1/4 vs motortrends 10.8 and 11.0 tests.
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Old 08-05-2019, 11:59 PM   #2904
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The ZLE is already 1 tenth behind at 60 mph because of the extra aero vs the ZL1. What's with the der emoticon? Did you want me to say 0.16 seconds slower to 100 mph? I was rounding a few hundredths of a second. Sheesh.
You're comparing zl1's and zl1 1le's with different trannies, not apples to apples.
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Old 08-06-2019, 02:10 AM   #2905
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The ZL1 was 11.1 seconds 0-100-0 based on Motor Trend's test, and that same car did 0-100 in 7.4 seconds and 1/4 in 11.5 @ 125 mph. Not bad numbers by any means. Motor Trend tested the C7 ZR1 0-100-0 in 10.4 seconds. And it did 0-100 in 6.6 seconds (and 11.0 @ 131.9 mph (!!) in the 1/4 mile).

Assuming the GT500 time of 10.6 seconds 0-100-0 is true, that's only 2 tenths slower than the ZR1, so the GT500 must be about 6.7 to 6.8 seconds 0-100 mph, and should trap the 1/4 mile around 129-130 mph (closer in acceleration to the ZR1 than the ZL1).
That makes sense with the GT500's higher redline.
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Old 08-06-2019, 11:17 AM   #2906
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You're using the zr1's 11.0 1/4 test run where the 6.6 0-100 and 10.4 0-100-0 times come from, yet motortrend themselves tested the 1/4 at 10.8 on a ztk package car which posted a 6.3 0-100 run and a 9.7 0-100-0.

9.7 is considerably faster than 10.6.

Also keep in mind tha your using Ford's claim vs motortrend's slowest c7 zr1 and not gm's times. Gm claims 10.6 in the 1/4 vs motortrends 10.8 and 11.0 tests.
I was just quoting the first ZR1 test that Motor Trend did. I didn't search every test for the fastest time available, for example, after you mentioned the faster ZR1 time I searched Motor Trend and found that time in the ZR1 vs. 911 GT2 RS. 9.7 0-100-0 is very fast.

There's nothing to argue from my point of view of C7 ZR1 vs GT500, I've always loved Corvettes. The C7 ZR1 is a monster.
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Old 08-06-2019, 11:26 AM   #2907
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I was just quoting the first ZR1 test that Motor Trend did. I didn't search every test for the fastest time available, for example, after you mentioned the faster ZR1 time I searched Motor Trend and found that time in the ZR1 vs. 911 GT2 RS. 9.7 0-100-0 is very fast.

There's nothing to argue from my point of view of C7 ZR1 vs GT500, I've always loved Corvettes. The C7 ZR1 is a monster.
Fair enough, I wasn't trying to imply that you used to the slower time on purpose, just that there is a faster recorded time.

It was actually on that first test also lol.. they just formatted it very weird and had the recorded metrics side by side and you had to scroll to the side to see the faster ztk package car.

No worries, zr1's, gt500's, and zl1's are all monsters. It's usually down to personal preference and budget imo. As these monsters have either different power levels or price escalations. Corvette zr1 should be at the top of the mountain.
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Old 08-06-2019, 12:11 PM   #2908
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I have a questions since all of you Camaro owners will soon be selling your SS, 1LE, ZL1, and ZL1Es to go buy a base C8, do you need to start a www.corvette8.com website? Because it looks like this one is going to die off with all of you bailing out of your youth inspired Camaros for the new nursing home special.
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Old 08-06-2019, 02:17 PM   #2909
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Fair enough, I wasn't trying to imply that you used to the slower time on purpose, just that there is a faster recorded time.

It was actually on that first test also lol.. they just formatted it very weird and had the recorded metrics side by side and you had to scroll to the side to see the faster ztk package car.

No worries, zr1's, gt500's, and zl1's are all monsters. It's usually down to personal preference and budget imo. As these monsters have either different power levels or price escalations. Corvette zr1 should be at the top of the mountain.
Ah, I didn't even think to scroll over on the first ZR1 individual test metrics.
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Old 08-06-2019, 02:29 PM   #2910
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I have a questions since all of you Camaro owners will soon be selling your SS, 1LE, ZL1, and ZL1Es to go buy a base C8, do you need to start a www.corvette8.com website? Because it looks like this one is going to die off with all of you bailing out of your youth inspired Camaros for the new nursing home special.
Hows is talking about the C8 any different then all the talk about the GT500. 95% of the people talking about the gt500 wont own one, yet its new and talk of the town. The C8 is the same. Heck your here and your still in a Boss.
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Hows is talking about the C8 any different then all the talk about the GT500. 95% of the people talking about the gt500 wont own one, yet its new and talk of the town. The C8 is the same. Heck your here and your still in a Boss.
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Hows is talking about the C8 any different then all the talk about the GT500. 95% of the people talking about the gt500 wont own one, yet its new and talk of the town. The C8 is the same. Heck your here and your still in a Boss.
He's just sore that after waiting soooooo long for a decent Mustang, the Chevy camp is smitten with the C8. Game changer.

I hope Ford didn't build the fail right into the GT500 like they did every other S550.
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