[ZL1_1LE]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Sounds very nice. Is this a new AWE product for the 6th gen Camaro? Are they now offering valves?

There is no way in hell AWE offered these systems with valves and it snuck past this forum lol, this place has been clamoring for them for years. And I check their website all the time. Unless he has some sort of modified AWE nobody is aware of.

[SOCAL.M6.ZLE]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

I used to use this center muffler and it worked very well. My shop had “customized” it to fit better and that new weld eventually cracked a few years later. So between that and the buzz was that it would “cost me power” at big levels, so I took it out. Guess what, that Magnaflow muffler did not cost me ANY power even at 1K WHP plus! I saw no gain taking it out. I’ve debated putting another one in and definitely would if I drove it in the street more. 2” headers with no cats is biblically loud, even with resonators and the AWE Touring mufflers. Don’t get me wrong, it sounds badass now, but on the street I’m a bit self-conscious about it. Massachusetts is not performance car friendly unfortunately.

Great feedback Josh! I didnt think it was costing me anything "power wise" but good to know your results...

[SOCAL.M6.ZLE]

Originally Posted by ZL1_1LE

You have long tube headers as well? Sorry for all of the questions, just triying to quiet down my Kooks with AWE touring as well.

Yes sir... and I also have the GESI 4.5" UHO Cats which help some... I was in the same boat as you, added the Magnaflow Center X like many here have and WOW.... the change was exactly what I wanted.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by ZL1_1LE

There is no way in hell AWE offered these systems with valves and it snuck past this forum lol, this place has been clamoring for them for years. And I check their website all the time. Unless he has some sort of modified AWE nobody is aware of.

It is a modified exhaust that is not produced by AWE. I think he stated on a FB group that it was some sort of collaboration effort.

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

It is a modified exhaust that is not produced by AWE. I think he stated on a FB group that it was some sort of collaboration effort.

Given that AWE makes valved catbacks for the Mustang S550/650 platforms, I wonder if they’ll reconsider making a valved version for the Camaro. I love my AWE Touring either way.

[Z OH 6]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Given that AWE makes valved catbacks for the Mustang S550/650 platforms, I wonder if they’ll reconsider making a valved version for the Camaro. I love my AWE Touring either way.

I have asked them twice over the last three years and the answer has always been, "no plans". However, I have noticed that some of their newer exhausts that have been developed in the last year or two have been valved. I think they typically call them Switchpath.

[ZL1_1LE]

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

It is a modified exhaust that is not produced by AWE. I think he stated on a FB group that it was some sort of collaboration effort.

Ahh i see, that makes sense, he made it sound like it was something that AWE produced for the masses, seems like he always has some sort of "IN" with these larger companies maybe he can help them understand the need in the 6 Gen community for valves like the other major brands have.

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Given that AWE makes valved catbacks for the Mustang S550/650 platforms, I wonder if they’ll reconsider making a valved version for the Camaro. I love my AWE Touring either way.

Yeah, I have inquired several times as well, they basically said take a hike lol, the demand isn't there according to them. The exhaust would be perfect with LT /high flow cats/awe touring WITH VALVES.

[arpad_m]

Okay, then David's post was the opposite of helpful, shall I say braggadocious. Taunting us with a custom exhaust that nobody else can buy, made by AWE who refused to even consider something like this for years despite the continued interest, meaning it's pretty unlikely to be offered to the public ...

Now, if this is actually a future AWE product, then I'll eat my words of course, but again, I find it quite unlikely at this point in the Camaro game.

[Patriot Motorsports USA]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Okay, then David's post was the opposite of helpful, shall I say braggadocious. Taunting us with a custom exhaust that nobody else can buy, made by AWE who refused to even consider something like this for years despite the continued interest, meaning it's pretty unlikely to be offered to the public ...

Now, if this is actually a future AWE product, then I'll eat my words of course, but again, I find it quite unlikely at this point in the Camaro game.

Lets just say that I put my money on the line and working with them to produce this system. I am well aware of the years of posts about this product and the desire for the upgrades to a better system. I have heard all the others and I absolutely LOVE the way my exhaust system sounds at any RPM/Load range... at WOT just before the shift, the note is Sweet beyond anything short of pure candy!!

Originally Posted by Z OH 6

I have asked them twice over the last three years and the answer has always been, "no plans". However, I have noticed that some of their newer GM exhausts that have been developed in the last year or two have been valved. I think they typically call them Switchpath.

This system is using the new SwitchPath Muffler system and even when cruising its nearly silent in the car... understand, my ZLE has no rear seat, no partition to the trunk and no sound deadening material. Its wide open inside to the tail-lights... so for the sound to be as quiet as it is in the video, its amazing and will be even better in a full interior car.

This system when available will retail for $3100.00 and be sold through my shop exclusively per agreement with AWE. SO... I will still forge ahead to bring this community the best in products I can, tested and proven to work flawlessly.

When I send Gabe the template for the bumper airflow panel... you will all know its done and ready for sale as a kit!

Hopefully the massive storms and rains will pass so I can get on the track and get some real sound clips for everyone soon!

[Joshinator99]

Originally Posted by Patriot Motorsports USA

Lets just say that I put my money on the line and working with them to produce this system. I am well aware of the years of posts about this product and the desire for the upgrades to a better system. I have heard all the others and I absolutely LOVE the way my exhaust system sounds at any RPM/Load range... at WOT just before the shift, the note is Sweet beyond anything short of pure candy!!



This system is using the new SwitchPath Muffler system and even when cruising its nearly silent in the car... understand, my ZLE has no rear seat, no partition to the trunk and no sound deadening material. Its wide open inside to the tail-lights... so for the sound to be as quiet as it is in the video, its amazing and will be even better in a full interior car.

This system when available will retail for $3100.00 and be sold through my shop exclusively per agreement with AWE. SO... I will still forge ahead to bring this community the best in products I can, tested and proven to work flawlessly.

When I send Gabe the template for the bumper airflow panel... you will all know its done and ready for sale as a kit!

Hopefully the massive storms and rains will pass so I can get on the track and get some real sound clips for everyone soon!

Wow, pretty cool if this works out.

So now a serious question: is there anyway to retrofit NPP to a car that did not come with it? I never minded not having NPP…until I got catless headers LMAO! So if anyone knows how to install NPP in a car that didn’t have it originally, I’m all ears!

[ZL1_1LE]

Originally Posted by Patriot Motorsports USA

Lets just say that I put my money on the line and working with them to produce this system. I am well aware of the years of posts about this product and the desire for the upgrades to a better system. I have heard all the others and I absolutely LOVE the way my exhaust system sounds at any RPM/Load range... at WOT just before the shift, the note is Sweet beyond anything short of pure candy!!



This system is using the new SwitchPath Muffler system and even when cruising its nearly silent in the car... understand, my ZLE has no rear seat, no partition to the trunk and no sound deadening material. Its wide open inside to the tail-lights... so for the sound to be as quiet as it is in the video, its amazing and will be even better in a full interior car.

This system when available will retail for $3100.00 and be sold through my shop exclusively per agreement with AWE. SO... I will still forge ahead to bring this community the best in products I can, tested and proven to work flawlessly.

When I send Gabe the template for the bumper airflow panel... you will all know its done and ready for sale as a kit!

Hopefully the massive storms and rains will pass so I can get on the track and get some real sound clips for everyone soon!

Is "switchpath" the valved version of their exhaust? I know they reference a different name for their resonators, and that's not what we're talking about here. We want actual valves in the tips that we can turn on and off, which shouldn't be hard to sell as just a set if AWE produces them correct?

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Wow, pretty cool if this works out.

So now a serious question: is there anyway to retrofit NPP to a car that did not come with it? I never minded not having NPP…until I got catless headers LMAO! So if anyone knows how to install NPP in a car that didn’t have it originally, I’m all ears!

Fwiw, I have had 3 different NPP exhaust setups on my car. Last year I went to Corsa Sport mufflers (warranty claim) without NPP because the valved exhausts are shit. They rattle and make a hissing noise when closed because they don't 100% seal. I don't miss NPP at all and couldn't be happier with the exhaust sound and level. The sound level with the Sport mufflers is a little louder than the NPP was closed and it's a nice linear increase in volume as RPM climbs.

If I was you, I would simply switch to quieter mufflers. Then have the exhaust v band clamped so you can easily drop the axle back at the track. Or have electronic cutouts welded in under the car. Good electronic cut outs seem to have a better valve and stronger motor to seal. The stock valve actuator and valve in the axle back mufflers are not very strong and an engine that flows a shit ton of air(boost) can push the valve open/closed on its own. This is just my experience with stock, Flowmaster, and Corsa NPP. I also heard a Borla NPP and it was the same. JM2C YMMV....

[ZL1_1LE]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

Fwiw, I have had 3 different NPP exhaust setups on my car. Last year I went to Corsa Sport mufflers (warranty claim) without NPP because the valved exhausts are shit. They rattle and make a hissing noise when closed because they don't 100% seal. I don't miss NPP at all and couldn't be happier with the exhaust sound and level. The sound level with the Sport mufflers is a little louder than the NPP was closed and it's a nice linear increase in volume as RPM climbs.

If I was you, I would simply switch to quieter mufflers. Then have the exhaust v band clamped so you can easily drop the axle back at the track. Or have electronic cutouts welded in under the car. Good electronic cut outs seem to have a better valve and stronger motor to seal. The stock valve actuator and valve in the axle back mufflers are not very strong and an engine that flows a shit ton of air(boost) can push the valve open/closed on its own. This is just my experience with stock, Flowmaster, and Corsa NPP. I also heard a Borla NPP and it was the same. JM2C YMMV....

I always thought the vehicle opened the valves themselves no matter what mode you were on depending on RPM? Even if you're running a shitload of boost haha

[Patriot Motorsports USA]

Originally Posted by ZL1_1LE

Is "switchpath" the valved version of their exhaust? I know they reference a different name for their resonators, and that's not what we're talking about here. We want actual valves in the tips that we can turn on and off, which shouldn't be hard to sell as just a set if AWE produces them correct?

AWE does it differently which is why I went with their system... its called "Switch Path" for a reason as it actually Switches The Path of the exhaust flow through a crossflow muffler, not just a tip-valve that is making the system struggle for another exit due to imposing a backpressure device that is going to rattle and fail. The other reason is because of the use of the larger 3" valves that have the full-flow of a cutout, which is essentially what they are, just directing the flow of exhaust to the muffler instead of straight out the outer pipe to the tip.

One of the benefits I see (HEAR) is that the exhaust flow going into a larger dual-path crossflow muffler is further canceling exhaust pulse raspy sound and giving me deeper tones that are rounded and smooth sounding... especially when I am just barely lifting the throttle off cruise and it gives this wicked smooth bumble sound I cannot explain with words alone.

I am working diligently to make this a kit and also slammed with Gale-force winds at the shop due to the Nor-Easter storms heading South and meeting up with the Hurricane that just broke all records, heading North!! Being close by the Atlantic but worse having three major rivers that drain from all the Smokey Mountains and Carolinas through our back yard... its hard to keep focused.