09-18-2023, 02:21 PM | #15 |
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As much as I HATE Ford, they are actually the ones making what people want. They are making the next generation ICE Mustang along side the electric one. The Bronco is a huge hit, and the Maverick was an instant sellout. The F150 keeps on selling like wildfire too. GM is dead IMO, Mary Barra is ruining the company. Stellantis/Dodge is next. Jeep is the main thing keeping them afloat.
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09-18-2023, 04:56 PM | #16 | |
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09-18-2023, 05:31 PM | #17 | |
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09-18-2023, 06:39 PM | #18 | |
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For perspective, the 6th Gen Camaro has never sold 100,000 units in a year. The 5th Gen did once, in 2011, but 2022 sales only hit 29,000. So here’s the only question that matters in this discussion: Did consumers just get bored with the Camaro and quit buying them because there were so many “better” alternatives - or did GM kill consumer interest in the Camaro by never promoting or making substantive improvements to it, long before EVs became the fashionable excuse? |
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09-18-2023, 07:40 PM | #19 | |
Hail to the King baby!
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09-18-2023, 08:12 PM | #20 |
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Ford was the only one of the Big 3 that didn't need a government bailout.
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09-19-2023, 07:36 AM | #21 | |
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09-19-2023, 09:32 AM | #22 | |
Hail to the King baby!
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Ford put the Ford name and logo up as collateral when they borrowed every dime they could get. A year or so later when GM needed the money there was none to borrow, we were in the deep financial crisis. So please don't give Ford some pat on the back because they went in the Sh*tter before GM and could borrow money. They simply stunk it up earlier.
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09-19-2023, 09:52 AM | #23 |
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Applies to 2-door sports cars even more:
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09-20-2023, 02:15 AM | #24 |
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No one is buying them. So no need for 7th gen.
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09-20-2023, 05:48 AM | #25 |
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That’s sort of the brutal truth of the matter.
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09-21-2023, 07:29 PM | #26 |
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Maybe there will be a 7th Gen... in a racing sim.
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09-21-2023, 10:08 PM | #27 |
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The real question then is like is it the chicken or the egg……. Is the poor sales of the Camaro due to general lack of interest in cars by younger people so GM never promoted it, or is the lack of promotion the reason no one (other than enthusiasts) got interested in it?
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