[Spykexx]

Originally Posted by SATINSTEEL1LE

Having had two ZL1s and a 21 Hellcat, I can say I would be bored with an AWD car like that, that you can just stab and run the number.

I have always seen this hobby as a work in progress. My process is get new car and immediately take it to the track bone stock. See what it would run, then add a DR to the mix and see what a stone stock car is capable of.

Then start modding with the intent that I will be taking steps to getting fast. I dont need to have the fastest racecar on the street. But something that makes me giggle when I stab it.

And the ZL1 does that. Its like driving a rollercoaster. Its also a stab it and go car, but thats with all the TC on. Turn that off and you are fighting traction, and the car wanting to drift, its a blast to drive.

Then turn back on the track/PTM modes and the car will literally drive it self with no help from you. Its such a multi-personality car. With everything on you can just stay on the gas around corners or from a dig and the car just sorts it all out.

Then with it all off, the car wants to kill you as quick as possible. Which is what the hellcat did all the time nannys on or off.

The ZL1 might not be the most powerful car anymore in its class but it does everything way above average. I think you will love it. You will get the same refinement but the car is still raw as hell and challenging to drive but only when you want it that way.

I say do it. It only money.

Thanks for the writeup! This is exactly what I wanted to hear, and exactly why the M3 kills me on the inside.

[ZX-10R]

If you want a roller coaster that scares you sometimes, buy a C7 Z06 haha

No oil pump problems either (that I know of)

[Spykexx]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

If you want a roller coaster that scares you sometimes, buy a C7 Z06 haha

No oil pump problems either (that I know of)

This was a serious consideration. Love the C7Z, but my God if anything has been hit by this market it's corvettes. Getting the 19 ZL1, for under MSRP with 9k miles and getting 10k over MSRP for my M3. And zero Corvettes came near that deal unfortunately or I would have went that way lol.

[ZX-10R]

Used car market is a bubble - won't last. Patience is a virtue, around November I think things will settle back down. Paying over MSRP for a used car is pure insanity

[raptor5244]

Jason pretty much sums up your impressions here. M5 CS but same issue. See below.

Watch the CT5-V Blackwing impressions, which is basically a 4 door ZL1.

[Spykexx]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

Used car market is a bubble - won't last. Patience is a virtue, around November I think things will settle back down. Paying over MSRP for a used car is pure insanity

While that would be ideal, I don't think the reality will be that smooth. Hell the company I work for supplies nearly all metal for automakers. GM as one. And let me tell you, don't be surprised when more major shortages come. The biggest major raw pure metal manufacturer just shut down entirely. I don't see a MAJOR influx of new cars within just a few short months. Let's also not forget those dealers are going to push HARD to also not lose out for overpaying on trades. So even after production resumes normally, it's going to take some time.

[Gunkk]

Originally Posted by Spykexx

The biggest major raw pure metal manufacturer just shut down entirely.

In mother Russia, metal refines YOU!

[ZX-10R]

Originally Posted by Spykexx

While that would be ideal, I don't think the reality will be that smooth.

Always slows down in winter, just watch. I'm not in a hurry. Housing market slowing, auto market will likely follow. Alot of pent up demand buyers flush with post covid cash thanks to Fed printing press

[clg82]

Originally Posted by Spykexx

This was a serious consideration. Love the C7Z, but my God if anything has been hit by this market it's corvettes. Getting the 19 ZL1, for under MSRP with 9k miles and getting 10k over MSRP for my M3. And zero Corvettes came near that deal unfortunately or I would have went that way lol.

Who the hell would pay OVER MSRP for a car with 9K miles?

[Camaro1973]

Or get one if these.

A fine piece of German engineering.

[Spykexx]

Originally Posted by clg82

Who the hell would pay OVER MSRP for a car with 9K miles?

Have you not paid any attention to the market? Most listed are 2+ years old AT MSRP or over. Especially in the Corvette market. 2015/2016 z06s going for 80k+ with 40,000 miles.

[Spykexx]

Originally Posted by Camaro1973

Or get one if these.

A fine piece of German engineering.

Quite literally as far in the opposite direction as possible lol.

[Alexk]

Originally Posted by ZX-10R

Always slows down in winter, just watch. I'm not in a hurry. Housing market slowing, auto market will likely follow. Alot of pent up demand buyers flush with post covid cash thanks to Fed printing press

It's slowing down already but not for performance cars yet
I'm planning to trade in my car once my camaro arrives in 3 weeks. 2 months ago I was offered almost 29k for my car, checked today and they are down to 25

[clg82]

Originally Posted by Spykexx

Have you not paid any attention to the market? Most listed are 2+ years old AT MSRP or over. Especially in the Corvette market. 2015/2016 z06s going for 80k+ with 40,000 miles.

Again LOGICALLY I'll ask the question, who the hell would pay OVER MSRP for a car with any miles on it....it's not about the market, it's about the financial responsibility that goes into the purchase of a car with miles on it for over the price it would cost new