[Aragorn]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

Speaking of the C8 from a dig. Did you see the joke of a race video Hennessy put up between a 41 mile non broken in (see also: no launch control & reduced torque in 1st and 2nd gear) vs the new TRX Ram? Hennessey fixes the results of their races to better advertise whatever they are trying to sell (see also: rip off).

Hopefully their follow-up race will be done with a fully broken in C8 properly launched and it will still beat their 1000 hp truck. (They won't allow that to happen)

Oh wow, that’s terrible! Will check it out. Thanks

[wnta1ss]

Pretty obvious to me that stock Hellcats are not really running all that quick in 0-60 times. I have seen plenty of them on an actual 1/4 mile dragstrip, and very rarely, one might squeak out a high-11 sec time, but the great majority of them are 12 seconds, or worse. Their trap speeds, however, are 120~127 mph. Seeing such slow ETs for that much trap speed tells us that the 0-60 portion of the run must have been pretty unimpressive.

[KingLT1]

Hellcats come with narrow all season tires. Combine that with a lot of weight and torque = spinning. Add a set of 305/35/20 drag radials and they will drop a second off their 0-60 time.

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by wnta1ss

Pretty obvious to me that stock Hellcats are not really running all that quick in 0-60 times. I have seen plenty of them on an actual 1/4 mile dragstrip, and very rarely, one might squeak out a high-11 sec time, but the great majority of them are 12 seconds, or worse. Their trap speeds, however, are 120~127 mph. Seeing such slow ETs for that much trap speed tells us that the 0-60 portion of the run must have been pretty unimpressive.

This

Originally Posted by KingLT1

Hellcats come with narrow all season tires. Combine that with a lot of weight and torque = spinning. Add a set of 305/35/20 drag radials and they will drop a second off their 0-60 time.

and this.

When i owned my Hellcat I never bought drag radials and I wish I would have. My best ever run in the M6 Hellcat was a 12.0, it's easier to get in the 11s in a stock A8 though.

[CamaroSSStlfan]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

Nice to see you speaking the truth finally about traction and drag radials/slicks. Is the GT500 allowed to use a drag radial in your fantasy land yet?

For a street car we shouldn't be talking using racing slicks.


A c8 doesn't need slicks.


Someone else mentioned the Vette. I'd rather buy a C7 a few years old and give it a few mods. Cheaper than buying a Hellcat.

[TheRealJA105]

Originally Posted by CamaroSSStlfan

For a street car we shouldn't be talking using racing slicks.


A c8 doesn't need slicks.


Someone else mentioned the Vette. I'd rather buy a C7 a few years old and give it a few mods. Cheaper than buying a Hellcat.

Where did i say a C8 needed slicks? I'll tell you I never have. As a matter of fact if you look back at my historical battles with Mr. Whole I can be quoted as saying the C8 will only have a few hero runs in the 10s and it won't drop much time on drag radials like the front engine cars do because it isn't traction limited like they are.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by WhiteMale

Everytime I'd look at an R/T, SRT, etc etc I could only think that the tires are all wrong, ton of power but it'll never be able to get it down. I was thinking of wrecking a hellcat that other day and could only see at best 255s on the back of it.

Stock is 275. If they were smaller than that then it most likely was not a HC. And due to the wheel well I don't think you can go beyond a 295 or 305 depending on the tire. The new WB HCs can hang a wider tire. But the standard HC is limited.

Originally Posted by Wyzz Kydd

I know this from experience. From 70 mph, both going WOT (at least I think he was) I had the best possible gearing starting in 3rd. He easily pulled away.

From a dig, with those ridiculous stock tires, I bet I could dust one to sixty, but after that, no way.

My HC was a lease and I was planning to turn it in. So when it came time to buy tires I threw some crappy MuchoMacho tires on just to satisfy the lease requirements. LOL!! At the last minute I decided to keep the HC. So here I am with crappy tires. Not for nothing, I'm willing to bet these tires are every bit as good (or bad) as the P-Zeros but for a substantially cheaper price (I think the set was like $700-ish). Anyway, the reason for this story...if I race someone, I don't even try to out-launch them. I don't often come across anyone with enough ower to beat me. So I let it out easy and then just figure I'll catch them on the back end. And that is usually what happens. Although I have gotten quite good at letting it out easy (mine is a manual trans BTW). Still, my best bet is to ease it out, let them get the jump, catch some traction, and then Hawk them down.

Originally Posted by wnta1ss

Pretty obvious to me that stock Hellcats are not really running all that quick in 0-60 times. I have seen plenty of them on an actual 1/4 mile dragstrip, and very rarely, one might squeak out a high-11 sec time, but the great majority of them are 12 seconds, or worse. Their trap speeds, however, are 120~127 mph. Seeing such slow ETs for that much trap speed tells us that the 0-60 portion of the run must have been pretty unimpressive.

Again, on stock tires this is typical. The HC group that went to my local track tho, they all had DRs. One of them had a CAI. The others simply removed the stock filter when they ran. They were all 11.1-10.7. Of course those were all A8 trans. I was the only M6 trans. But the point is that the HC makes way too much power and has a way too narrow all season crappy P-Zero to make a decent run. Even a good street tire would make a huge improvement. The HC guys used to always tell people that the first mod is a tire.

[seethruya]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

The HC guys used to always tell people that the first mod is a tire.

Or it’s a drivers race with a Scat Pack.

[WhiteMale]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Stock is 275. If they were smaller than that then it most likely was not a HC. And due to the wheel well I don't think you can go beyond a 295 or 305 depending on the tire. The new WB HCs can hang a wider tire. But the standard HC is limited.

It's also winter here, not uncommon to see a narrow(er) tire I think. I didn't think much of this SRT but he turned off and I could see the HC badge on the fender