[Vtor_ZL1]

The ride is more than most people bargain for - this is coming from ZLE owner with 20,000 miles on theirs. Track car with heated / cooled seats.

[Matos1LE]

I would normally pass, but seeing as how a ton of posers buy them to pose for Instagram photos at car meets, it might totally fine. They probably ditched once they realized they couldn't stomach the ride or handle the power (or made their quota of youtube videos on it). I'd say you give it a thorough inspection, wring it out real good on the test drive, then have em put it up on the lift. If it handles the abuse and doesn't leak anything, it may just be fine.

[Scottyz]

I wonder if owner number 2 bought it to flip it to make a few dollars quick. Only had it 8 days.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by Mov Ov3r

I'm going against the grain here, I don't see anything wrong with it. Even though it shows 1 oil change on record, doesn't mean it's only had one oil change. Personally, I would have offered 48.5, and see if they took the bait. The 3 owners don't scare me even in the slightest, especially at only 10,000 miles.

Factory warranty for what.. another year and 25K miles on the B2B, you also get carfax guarantee buyback if something was wrong with it. You have nothing to lose. Call the VIN into Chevrolet dealership and ask about records on the car, they should be able to give them to you.

From Carfax:

"Plus, the exclusive CARFAX Buyback Guarantee reduces the risk involved in buying a used car. If the CARFAX Report fails to include a DMV-issued branded title (such as salvage, fire or flood damage, and odometer problems), CARFAX may buy the vehicle back for the full purchase price.*

For more information on CARFAX Vehicle History Reports, visit the CARFAX Help Center.

Shopping for a used car?
Don’t waste time looking at vehicles with less than desirable history. Start your search on CARFAX.com and filter your results by 1-owner cars, accident history, cars with service records and more."

Note the Carfax quarantee "MAY" apply inly to certain title issues vs "if something was wrong with it". So there are major limitations here.
Also note, what Carfax themselves deem as "less than desirable history" starting with 1 owner cars and service records etc (as a criteria for a desirable used car vs not).

While there are some used zl1 1les on the market, there are very few of them and by and large they are 1 owner cars. Of course we can all speculate here until cows come home, but 3 owners in 10k miles is HIGHLY irregular no matter how one looks at it, or what criteria one applies to "justify" it.

A saving grace is that a full warranty is still available for 1 year. But not having service records to prove that proper maintenance has been followed may invalidate it, as it is a written condition to maintain any warranty.
And that's a risk if for some reason GM was put on a hook to replace major components.

Given the price - which is not a tremendous deal to start with - i would look for a single owner car with full service records instead.

[Scottyz]

I would like for 1LE Red Dragon to comment. Would be interesting to see what they say about the car.
The lack of documented oil changes is also a red flag

[Silveradoss573]

Originally Posted by Scottyz

I would like for 1LE Red Dragon to comment. Would be interesting to see what they say about the car.
The lack of documented oil changes is also a red flag

Well if you guys only go off a Carfax reports for services, then I betting my 2011 Silverado only showing 1 oil change on Carfax since I bought the truck brand new would really freak some of you out then.

[Mov Ov3r]

Originally Posted by TrackClub

From Carfax:

"Plus, the exclusive CARFAX Buyback Guarantee reduces the risk involved in buying a used car. If the CARFAX Report fails to include a DMV-issued branded title (such as salvage, fire or flood damage, and odometer problems), CARFAX may buy the vehicle back for the full purchase price.*

For more information on CARFAX Vehicle History Reports, visit the CARFAX Help Center.

Shopping for a used car?
Don’t waste time looking at vehicles with less than desirable history. Start your search on CARFAX.com and filter your results by 1-owner cars, accident history, cars with service records and more."

Note the Carfax quarantee "MAY" apply inly to certain title issues vs "if something was wrong with it". So there are major limitations here.
Also note, what Carfax themselves deem as "less than desirable history" starting with 1 owner cars and service records etc (as a criteria for a desirable used car vs not).

While there are some used zl1 1les on the market, there are very few of them and by and large they are 1 owner cars. Of course we can all speculate here until cows come home, but 3 owners in 10k miles is HIGHLY irregular no matter how one looks at it, or what criteria one applies to "justify" it.

A saving grace is that a full warranty is still available for 1 year. But not having service records to prove that proper maintenance has been followed may invalidate it, as it is a written condition to maintain any warranty.
And that's a risk if for some reason GM was put on a hook to replace major components.

Given the price - which is not a tremendous deal to start with - i would look for a single owner car with full service records instead.

Absolutely I agree it seems off, but all things considered a lot of us don't take our cars to the dealer for minor work or oil changes (think crumple zones from improper lifts as an example). I applied the same logic to the purchase of a 10K mile ZLE. One of the owners for 8 days, I wouldn't even consider that being owned really, so more like a 2 owner, and mystery "2nd" owner. Like was said before proceed with caution, but do the leg work. Call Chevrolet give them the VIN, and check to see what history they have.

I would never pass on a good deal especially because potentially the Nissan dealer wants this moved off their lot. The market in their area may not support high value muscle cars and they probably know this. Nissan most certainly will not value the ZLE the same way Chevrolet would, leading to a lessor price.

Plus, it was a member owned car, who probably has a little more history/detail on the car. I simply advised not to pass on it because of "3" owners and limited history. Not all service centers report to carfax or on the vehicle vin either, another item to always keep in mind.

[Scottyz]

Originally Posted by Silveradoss573

Well if you guys only go off a Carfax reports for services, then I betting my 2011 Silverado only showing 1 oil change on Carfax since I bought the truck brand new would really freak some of you out then.

I do my own work too. My first 4 oil changes are free so they do them and I’m right beside them when the oil change is performed. But the CARFAX is all the information we have right now. This is why it would be good if Dragon could post or at least inform the OP if others had been performed. I bet it has had more than one. But, there are owners that will go the maximum mileage recommended between oil changes on their first oil change. Many owners of many types of vehicles do this. Seen this many many times.

[Silveradoss573]

Originally Posted by Scottyz

I do my own work too. My first 4 oil changes are free so they do them and I’m right beside them when the oil change is performed. But the CARFAX is all the information we have right now. This is why it would be good if Dragon could post or at least inform the OP if others had been performed. I bet it has had more than one. But, there are owners that will go the maximum mileage recommended between oil changes on their first oil change. Many owners of many types of vehicles do this. Seen this many many times.

I figured you did but man it's amazing how so many people look at these reports and take everything reported or not reported so literally. There was a thread about Carfax over on C5 about a month ago or so that was short but was quite interesting and showed that you can't believe everything on them unfortunately.

I was trying to help the op out and i do hope 1LE Red Dragon either weighs in here or at least reach out to the op and help him with some info on the car.

[Mov Ov3r]

Originally Posted by Silveradoss573

I figured you did but man it's amazing how so many people look at these reports and take everything reported or not reported so literally. There was a thread about Carfax over on C5 about a month ago or so that was short but was quite interesting and showed that you can't believe everything on them unfortunately.

I was trying to help the op out and i do hope 1LE Red Dragon either weighs in here or at least reach out to the op and help him with some info on the car.

I couldn't agree more, the carfax is not the be all end all report. I always take it with a grain of salt.

[Scottyz]

Agree 100% Silverado. I document all my maintenance and keep my receipts with kms at the intervals. I truly believe it’s valuable for resale. I don’t mind spending a little extra on a vehicle if the vehicle comes with maintenance records that shows the vehicle was well taken care of.
I even keep track of each gas purchase on my nicer vehicles I’ve owned. If my mileage takes a big hit then typically something is up and I’ll investigate what’s going on. I’m lucky as I’ve been a licensed mechanic for like 25 years so I do all my own work.

[Gas]

I spoke with 1le red dragon through Das and he informed me he changed the oil 2-3 times in the 8,900 miles he owned it. my main issue is the 3 owners on the carfax. and it being 4 hours away from me. if I waste a Saturday to get pulled around and lead on by a dealer id be pretty pissed.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by Mov Ov3r

Absolutely I agree it seems off, but all things considered a lot of us don't take our cars to the dealer for minor work or oil changes (think crumple zones from improper lifts as an example). I applied the same logic to the purchase of a 10K mile ZLE. One of the owners for 8 days, I wouldn't even consider that being owned really, so more like a 2 owner, and mystery "2nd" owner. Like was said before proceed with caution, but do the leg work. Call Chevrolet give them the VIN, and check to see what history they have.

I would never pass on a good deal especially because potentially the Nissan dealer wants this moved off their lot. The market in their area may not support high value muscle cars and they probably know this. Nissan most certainly will not value the ZLE the same way Chevrolet would, leading to a lessor price.

Plus, it was a member owned car, who probably has a little more history/detail on the car. I simply advised not to pass on it because of "3" owners and limited history. Not all service centers report to carfax or on the vehicle vin either, another item to always keep in mind.

Yep agree. Carfax has limitations for sure. I keep all receipts of any maintenance - free oil refills included. I think most sports car owners do the same for obvious reasons, but also because those cars are special to them. Folks that dont, usually have different attitudes about such car ownership and this extends to maintenance practices (or lack of). Personally id much rather purchase a car from somebody that is proud to give me a stack of invoices vs feed me whatever line they think i may wish to hear. And as i said, oil changes is only one of 3 critical items on these cars. Id actually suggest that diff fluid is almost more important.
Anyway, i hear ya Hope the OP makes the right decision for him and whatever he decides he comes out on top.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by Gas

I spoke with 1le red dragon through Das and he informed me he changed the oil 2-3 times in the 8,900 miles he owned it. my main issue is the 3 owners on the carfax. and it being 4 hours away from me. if I waste a Saturday to get pulled around and lead on by a dealer id be pretty pissed.

That's cool you got some verified info. Did he say how long he owned it and if he was the 1st owner? I wouldn't worry too much about the other two owners and 1k miles.