What tires should I get? SoCal Car, Canyon Carver, Semi-DD, never in the wet. - Page 2

Snakebt6 · 01-09-2020, 06:11 AM

Stock ones sound like they fit the bill.

SFV1LE · 01-09-2020, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UFDUB

Anyone tried the PSC2 on a ZLE? Looking for real life review. Seems like it would be a better tire if you want a little more street performance vs track performance without losing true track ability.

Yes, I'm currently running PSC2 on my ZLE for track duty. I chose these vs. more SC3R because I was driving from LA to a 2 day event at Laguna Seca, and I didnt trust the tread on SC3R to last 2 track days as well a the drive to SF area after and return trip. PSC2 have much thicker tread, and they worked as planned.

I also used these 2 day old tires at ACS Roval in Fontana and still had some decent lap times--1:50. I plan to use PSC2 for a few more track days, then go back to SC3R or Hoosier.

What I learned about PSC2 is that the proper size for ZLE is NOT 305-F/325-R. 305 PSC2 is much narrower than 305 SC3R. The right size is 315-F/345-R, these fit the ZLE perfectly with no rubbing, and give you extra rubber to offset some of the grip defecit vs SC3R.

TRZ06 · 01-09-2020, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SFV1LE

Yes, I'm currently running PSC2 on my ZLE for track duty. I chose these vs. more SC3R because I was driving from LA to a 2 day event at Laguna Seca, and I didnt trust the tread on SC3R to last 2 track days as well a the drive to SF area after and return trip. PSC2 have much thicker tread, and they worked as planned.

I also used these 2 day old tires at ACS Roval in Fontana and still had some decent lap times--1:50. I plan to use PSC2 for a few more track days, then go back to SC3R or Hoosier.

What I learned about PSC2 is that the proper size for ZLE is NOT 305-F/325-R. 305 PSC2 is much narrower than 305 SC3R. The right size is 315-F/345-R, these fit the ZLE perfectly with no rubbing, and give you extra rubber to offset some of the grip defecit vs SC3R.

Did you notice much difference in initial turn-in on the PSC2 VS the SC3R?

Michelin uses a softer sidewall construction than Goodyear does.

UFDUB · 01-09-2020, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SFV1LE

Yes, I'm currently running PSC2 on my ZLE for track duty. I chose these vs. more SC3R because I was driving from LA to a 2 day event at Laguna Seca, and I didnt trust the tread on SC3R to last 2 track days as well a the drive to SF area after and return trip. PSC2 have much thicker tread, and they worked as planned.

I also used these 2 day old tires at ACS Roval in Fontana and still had some decent lap times--1:50. I plan to use PSC2 for a few more track days, then go back to SC3R or Hoosier.

What I learned about PSC2 is that the proper size for ZLE is NOT 305-F/325-R. 305 PSC2 is much narrower than 305 SC3R. The right size is 315-F/345-R, these fit the ZLE perfectly with no rubbing, and give you extra rubber to offset some of the grip defecit vs SC3R.

On track, how much different were they compared to SC3R? Overall, do you like them enough to run them again?

SFV1LE · 01-09-2020, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TRZ06

Did you notice much difference in initial turn-in on the PSC2 VS the SC3R?

Michelin uses a softer sidewall construction than Goodyear does.

Better turn in and better overall grip with SC3R vs. PSC2, but my PSC2 lap times weren't bad and I wasn't pushing it. Capable of at least 1:48 at ACS.

The SC3R is designed in a unique way to handle the weight of the ZL1 better than any other tire, PSC2 works great with Porsches like GT3 and GT3RS due to much lighter weight.

SFV1LE · 01-09-2020, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by UFDUB

On track, how much different were they compared to SC3R? Overall, do you like them enough to run them again?

I will run them again because I know I can improve my lap times, and they last longer. If I'm ever taking a long trip to Laguna Seca or Sonoma I'll have to use them again.

Also, I dont like remounting tires frequently due to risk of shop damaging the bead. I can leave the PSC2 on between events for occasional driving and they have decent tread for unexpected rain.

I was able to find good discounts on new PSC2s, or slightly used ones, and no discounted new SC3R.

kropscamaro16 · 01-09-2020, 04:59 PM

ive heard the cup 2s are just scary in the wet lol but ive never ran them before thought about getting a set next instad of my p4s but they are normally a bit more and dont last that long from what ive read

SFV1LE · 01-09-2020, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

ive heard the cup 2s are just scary in the wet lol but ive never ran them before thought about getting a set next instad of my p4s but they are normally a bit more and dont last that long from what ive read

They are not great in the rain, but with full tread not bad. Definitely a LOT better than SC3R. MP4S is the best rain tire.

kropscamaro16 · 01-09-2020, 05:03 PM

gotcha still gotta get to buttonwillow and chuckwalla this year laguna seca is a dream track but also a big mission lol 6 hours away from me here in the oc

SFV1LE · 01-09-2020, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

gotcha still gotta get to buttonwillow and chuckwalla this year laguna seca is a dream track but also a big mission lol 6 hours away from me here in the oc

Dont bother going to Laguna without a Laguna Pipe mod. Lifting at the base of the hill past the sound booth is a huge bummer, kills lap times, and is easy to forget when you're driving hard. ZL1 breaks sound limit so easy.

Buttonwillow is a great track for the ZL1, and generally forgiving if you go off. Laguna is not forgiving, with walls or gravel traps (for motorcycle safety) everywhere.

kropscamaro16 · 01-09-2020, 05:32 PM

oh im full longtubes and exhaust and get told im the loudest car at most of the track days so im good lol but its a dream

nicktechla · 01-10-2020, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

ive heard the cup 2s are just scary in the wet lol but ive never ran them before thought about getting a set next instad of my p4s but they are normally a bit more and dont last that long from what ive read

considering it rains like 2x a year here, you'll be ok

kropscamaro16 · 01-10-2020, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nicktechla

considering it rains like 2x a year here, you'll be ok

oh im not worried about it when we going to laguna nick? lol

nicktechla · 01-10-2020, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kropscamaro16

oh im not worried about it when we going to laguna nick? lol

it's on my list for this year!

01-09-2020, 04:59 PM	#21
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 10,138	ive heard the cup 2s are just scary in the wet lol but ive never ran them before thought about getting a set next instad of my p4s but they are normally a bit more and dont last that long from what ive read __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

01-09-2020, 05:03 PM	#23
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 10,138	gotcha still gotta get to buttonwillow and chuckwalla this year laguna seca is a dream track but also a big mission lol 6 hours away from me here in the oc __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

01-09-2020, 05:32 PM	#25
kropscamaro16 Drives: 2016 1ss camaro Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: 909 Posts: 10,138	oh im full longtubes and exhaust and get told im the loudest car at most of the track days so im good lol but its a dream __________________ 16 1SS NIGHTFALL GRAY METALLIC WITH NPP #BECAUSERACECAR #SAVETHEMANUALS

01-09-2020, 06:11 AM	#15
Snakebt6 Drives: Rally Green 2020 ZL1 1LE A10 Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Jacksonville Florida Posts: 402	Stock ones sound like they fit the bill.

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