Extreme Noob here with tire question - Page 2

greg0ry · 01-03-2020, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LT4Greg

Yeah gregory it used to be LT1 Greg when I owned the 2016 SS but when I bought my ZL1 I changed it to LT4 Greg!��

I hope to one day follow your footsteps, my man...

LT4Greg · 01-03-2020, 10:26 AM

Michelins are good, Continental Extreme Contact Sport tires are good, and other major brands. Get on Tire Rack.com and check the tires they offer for your SS or even Discount Tires website. I know this may sound crazy to some folks here but I may go back with the GYs when I replace mine! After all that’s the tire that the engineers set the suspension for on the ZL1s! They don’t have a good treadwear rating(220) as they are a performance rated tire.

Yanbags · 01-03-2020, 10:45 AM

Michelin Pilot Sport 4S will probably be the best street summer tire you can get and will last longer than the OEMs. They also have a better tread pattern for wet driving, but - (a) you live in LA, and I can't imagine you're worried about a ton of rain/wet driving, and (b) very wide and slim profile tires like these generally do not have the same tread depth to handle dispersing a lot of water. So when you drive in the rain, just dial it down a bit.

That being said, your tires still look completely fine to me. The edges just show typical wear of a tire seeing high loads closer to the sidewall. Have you looked at the treadwear indicators along the center of the tire? I drive mine basically to the cords for track use

metros11 · 01-03-2020, 10:59 AM

I would be a little concerned that the fronts are wearing quicker than the rear, it's typically the other way around.

Mov Ov3r · 01-03-2020, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by greg0ry

Hey guys!!!! What's the best tire that's gonna give me wayyyyy longer life, I don't know.. maybe in the early 20k mile range.. but still good for performance?! Like I mentioned, I don't track! I just hit the canyons once in a while and have some random fun on the street (no burnouts). I'm looking at those Michelin Pilot Sport 4s. Ya'll think I can get around 20k out of those the way I drive??

I'm not sure you'll ever see 20K unless you go all season or buy stock SS rims with A/S, or go square set up. I am running Nitto NT555 G2's because that's what was on the car when I bought it, so far they are okay, but no traction in wet conditions under throttle. In dry conditions they are decent tires, a decent amount of grip (nothing compared to the GY)

Martinjlm · 01-03-2020, 11:13 AM

Seems to me that the fronts are wearing more close to the edge because of turning. I would suggest getting a tire depth gauge and measuring all your tires in the center.

c4racer · 01-03-2020, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by greg0ry

Hey guys!!!! What's the best tire that's gonna give me wayyyyy longer life, I don't know.. maybe in the early 20k mile range.. but still good for performance?! Like I mentioned, I don't track! I just hit the canyons once in a while and have some random fun on the street (no burnouts). I'm looking at those Michelin Pilot Sport 4s. Ya'll think I can get around 20k out of those the way I drive??

yup - that tire will easily do 20K, maybe 25K or the Pilot Super Sport.

Laststandard · 01-03-2020, 11:38 AM

One thing to note, tread depth on the outer shoulder of the SC3 is shallow compared to the rest of the tire, so that area isn't always a good indicator that the tire is worn out.

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Originally Posted by metros11

I would be a little concerned that the fronts are wearing quicker than the rear, it's typically the other way around.

These cars are pretty hard on the front tires. Replaced my fronts at about 8500 miles, kept the rears on as they still had life left in 'em.

2019ZL1Droptop · 01-03-2020, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by greg0ry

Hey guys!!!! What's the best tire that's gonna give me wayyyyy longer life, I don't know.. maybe in the early 20k mile range.. but still good for performance?! Like I mentioned, I don't track! I just hit the canyons once in a while and have some random fun on the street (no burnouts). I'm looking at those Michelin Pilot Sport 4s. Ya'll think I can get around 20k out of those the way I drive??

This is a link to Michelin tires here in Canada. Most of them have a 50000KM warranty which is about 31000 miles. Have a look and then dial up the USA Michelin site to help you make a decision.

Hope this helps out a bit.

https://www.michelin.ca/en/high-performance-tires-2/

TheRealJA105 · 01-03-2020, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Laststandard

One thing to note, tread depth on the outer shoulder of the SC3 is shallow compared to the rest of the tire, so that area isn't always a good indicator that the tire is worn out.

These cars are pretty hard on the front tires. Replaced my fronts at about 8500 miles, kept the rears on as they still had life left in 'em.

People that don't track don't understand these things.

Emoto · 01-03-2020, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Seems to me that the fronts are wearing more close to the edge because of turning. I would suggest getting a tire depth gauge and measuring all your tires in the center.

This right here.

Measure your tread depth. It is something one should do routinely, anyway.

Example of a random tire tread depth gauge: https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...4-8/11935569-p

Here is a decent write-up on measuring tread depth: https://www.tireamerica.com/resource/tire-tread-depth

LESS1 · 01-03-2020, 10:05 PM

Looks to me like you may have overinflated the fronts based on the wear in the middle compared to the outsides. As someone else previously mentioned, the SC3s are thinner on the outside edges compared to the middle of the tire. In my case, I track my car a lot so the fronts lasted a little more than 3k miles before the edges gave up and began to cord. I am currently running `2.5deg negative camber up front, which is about as much as you can go without modification. As for replacement tires, if you plan to track your car I'd go with the OEM GY's, they are good tires, that can be sourced for a good price, and do hold up reasonably well given the low treadwear rating. Just my .02 so take it for what it's worth.

DannyC · 01-03-2020, 10:52 PM

I'm having tire issues also. But they seem to be just the opposite as Greg0ry. I have Continentals and they have no traction on a WOT launch. Is there any tires out there that would give decent traction and some long term durability??

KingLT1 · 01-04-2020, 05:53 PM

Change them...

Firehawk Indy 500 are solid tires for the money.

01-03-2020, 10:26 AM	#16
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,869	Michelins are good, Continental Extreme Contact Sport tires are good, and other major brands. Get on Tire Rack.com and check the tires they offer for your SS or even Discount Tires website. I know this may sound crazy to some folks here but I may go back with the GYs when I replace mine! After all that’s the tire that the engineers set the suspension for on the ZL1s! They don’t have a good treadwear rating(220) as they are a performance rated tire. __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

01-03-2020, 11:13 AM	#20
Martinjlm Retired fr GM + SP Global Drives: 2017 Camaro Fifty SS Convertible Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Detroit Posts: 5,945	Seems to me that the fronts are wearing more close to the edge because of turning. I would suggest getting a tire depth gauge and measuring all your tires in the center. __________________ 2017 CAMARO FIFTY SS CONVERTIBLE A8 \| MRC \| NPP \| Nav \| HUD \| GM Performance CAI \| Tony Mamo LT1 V2 Ported TB \| Kooks 1-7/8” LT Headers \| FlexFuel Tune \| Thinkware Q800 Pro front and rear dash cam \| Charcoal Tint for Taillights and 3rd Brakelight \| Orange and Carbon Fiber Bowties \| 1LE Wheels in Gunmetal Gray \| Carbon Fiber Interior Overlays \| Novistretch bra and mirror covers \| Tow hitch for bicycle rack \|

01-04-2020, 05:53 PM	#28
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 7,561	Change them... Firehawk Indy 500 are solid tires for the money. __________________ 2016 NFG SS A8/Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel

01-03-2020, 10:45 AM	#17
Yanbags Drives: '17 SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: NYC Posts: 104	Michelin Pilot Sport 4S will probably be the best street summer tire you can get and will last longer than the OEMs. They also have a better tread pattern for wet driving, but - (a) you live in LA, and I can't imagine you're worried about a ton of rain/wet driving, and (b) very wide and slim profile tires like these generally do not have the same tread depth to handle dispersing a lot of water. So when you drive in the rain, just dial it down a bit. That being said, your tires still look completely fine to me. The edges just show typical wear of a tire seeing high loads closer to the sidewall. Have you looked at the treadwear indicators along the center of the tire? I drive mine basically to the cords for track use

01-03-2020, 10:59 AM	#18
metros11 Drives: 2018 SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: North Jersey Posts: 778	I would be a little concerned that the fronts are wearing quicker than the rear, it's typically the other way around.

01-03-2020, 10:05 PM	#26
LESS1 Drives: Chevy Camaro Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: TBD Posts: 276	Looks to me like you may have overinflated the fronts based on the wear in the middle compared to the outsides. As someone else previously mentioned, the SC3s are thinner on the outside edges compared to the middle of the tire. In my case, I track my car a lot so the fronts lasted a little more than 3k miles before the edges gave up and began to cord. I am currently running `2.5deg negative camber up front, which is about as much as you can go without modification. As for replacement tires, if you plan to track your car I'd go with the OEM GY's, they are good tires, that can be sourced for a good price, and do hold up reasonably well given the low treadwear rating. Just my .02 so take it for what it's worth.

01-03-2020, 10:52 PM	#27
DannyC Drives: 17 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Central VA Posts: 119	I'm having tire issues also. But they seem to be just the opposite as Greg0ry. I have Continentals and they have no traction on a WOT launch. Is there any tires out there that would give decent traction and some long term durability??

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