ZL1 vs Hellcat - Page 2

JD2018_ZL1 · 06-26-2019, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by VAZL1

Awesome analogy on the hellcat

Thanks, but it truly is the first thing I thought of when driving it. I always feel like I am the one holding it back.

Dysan911 · 06-26-2019, 07:30 AM

Wow I knew the Hellcats were fast but thought it was closer competition with the ZL1 because of how heavy they are.

Aliveguy5 · 06-26-2019, 08:34 AM

Just keep treeing him if you can and make him play catch up. Hopefully you can get the hole shot and make him use the power to catch you vs. him getting the jump and using the power to gap you.

Dysan911 · 06-26-2019, 02:05 PM

Zack46 · 06-26-2019, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Flatoutflyn

So a few years back, a local radio personality challenged me to a race at the local drag strip. he is not a driver and not only did I tree him twice, but beat him twice live on air during his show. Now he was going to race a Ford GT, but the owner backed out so he wants a rematch in the next few weeks. He put drag radials on the Hellcat and claims it went 11.25. My best time all stock with nannies on is 11.52 at 127, 90 degrees at Beach Bend Ky. Any suggestions on quick mods or I possibly can borrow some drag radials from a friend but never having used them, what could I expect with them foot braking the car to get the boost up? Any suggestions would be helpful. For whatever reason the video from the first race will not upload.

Fraxum · 06-26-2019, 05:34 PM

I was at Atco last Friday a black A10 ZL1 was running 10.0s with:

Tires
Bigger TB
Ported stock SC
Small pulley
Meth
E45
Voltage booster
LTs
tune

Pretty mild build to be that fast and close to being as fast as you can go without a cage. Why do people go bigger? But stock hellcats are faster than ZL1s.

Doc_Scott · 06-26-2019, 10:46 PM

Intake, TB, pulley, tune, tires. Call it a day.

wnta1ss · 06-28-2019, 04:21 AM

Hellcats have been out for years now, so I have seen plenty of them run the 1/4 mile. Have never seen a Hellcat on street tires that runs as quick as a stock A10 ZL1 on the dragstrip here.

big dave · 06-28-2019, 07:29 AM

I honestly think the only thing holding the ZL1 back is torque management. Though I've gotten a 1.66 60' on the stock tires, I wasn't able to do it with full throttle application at launch. I'm sure these cars would run in the 10'8s or quicker on tire, in good air, with just the TM being removed.

BlaqWhole · 06-28-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wnta1ss

Hellcats have been out for years now, so I have seen plenty of them run the 1/4 mile. Have never seen a Hellcat on street tires that runs as quick as a stock A10 ZL1 on the dragstrip here.

That is because street tires are not enough for a Hellcat when on the track. It needs DRs. The ZL1 however can run a great quarter mile on street tires. However DRs don't do too much for it. So on streets the ZL1 will have the advantage. On DRs the Hellcat will have the advantage.

drfeelgood · 06-28-2019, 11:55 AM

There are multiple documented stock Zl1's on stock tires that have run high 10's. Granted, I think these guys are professional drivers , but one is on this forum. Both have slips to prove it. One has a video ... Just saying, it's possible.

2018ZL1 · 06-28-2019, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by drfeelgood

There are multiple documented stock Zl1's on stock tires that have run high 10's. Granted, I think these guys are professional drivers , but one is on this forum. Both have slips to prove it. One has a video ... Just saying, it's possible.

I know of 2 of them...

I guess that multiple?

drfeelgood · 06-28-2019, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 2018ZL1

I know of 2 of them...

I guess that multiple?

yes sir, two on here, another not on these forums... just saying, it can be done.. I know its no easy and apparently there were both in near perfect conditions

2018ZL1 · 06-28-2019, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by drfeelgood

yes sir, two on here, another not on these forums... just saying, it can be done.. I know its no easy and apparently there were both in near perfect conditions

I know the 2 guys on here have a crap load of runs in this car... I didn't have enough patience to do that! lol Practice practice practice... and good air!

06-26-2019, 07:30 AM	#16
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06-26-2019, 05:34 PM	#20
Fraxum Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,520	I was at Atco last Friday a black A10 ZL1 was running 10.0s with: Tires Bigger TB Ported stock SC Small pulley Meth E45 Voltage booster LTs tune Pretty mild build to be that fast and close to being as fast as you can go without a cage. Why do people go bigger? But stock hellcats are faster than ZL1s. __________________ "Democracy Dies in Darkness" My LT1 Keeper ..... ..... My Car Blog CarPlayList, a free App to build USB and Android Music drives.

06-28-2019, 07:29 AM	#23
big dave Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,052	I honestly think the only thing holding the ZL1 back is torque management. Though I've gotten a 1.66 60' on the stock tires, I wasn't able to do it with full throttle application at launch. I'm sure these cars would run in the 10'8s or quicker on tire, in good air, with just the TM being removed. __________________ '17 ZL1 10.99@129 stock. 4225# raceweight. Best 60'- 1.66 on factory tires. 10.48@132 E50, intake and tune. 4270 lbs https://youtu.be/EyHtdH9XOkY https://youtu.be/Lcu41obbTf8 '13 ZL1 BRM A6. 11.591 @ 119.2 factory stock with a 1.68 60'! Best stock mph 121.8. 11.29 @ 123 RotoFab, drag radials and skinnies. 4360# raceweight. http://youtu.be/yggIA3C_kkA 2014... back to stock http://youtu.be/spQLaTWbThs 2013... stock & RotoFab

06-28-2019, 11:55 AM	#25
drfeelgood Drives: 2017 ZL1 Convertible A10 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: San Gabriel, CA Posts: 993	There are multiple documented stock Zl1's on stock tires that have run high 10's. Granted, I think these guys are professional drivers , but one is on this forum. Both have slips to prove it. One has a video ... Just saying, it's possible. __________________ '17 White ZL1 A10 Convertible - TM ported TB - RotoFab CAI - 2.3" griptech upper pulley - Kooks 1 7/8" Headers with High Flow Cats - Borla S-type Catback - Audio Overhaul - NavTV M650-GM - 20" BlackDiForza- Michelin Pilot Sport4S - Tuned at BRC Raceworks (606rwhp/675trq) '14 CTS-V Coupe - ZL1 lid - Ported TB - Ported Snout - AirRad CAI - 8.66" lower - 2.55" upper- Greenbelt - SW Headers - SW Catback - Varimax Intercooler Pump - Track Attack Intercooler-Tuned at BRC Raceworks (551rwhp/516trq) '17 Maserati Levante- STOCK

06-26-2019, 08:34 AM	#17
Aliveguy5 Drives: 2017 Red Hot ZL1 Join Date: May 2015 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 216	Just keep treeing him if you can and make him play catch up. Hopefully you can get the hole shot and make him use the power to catch you vs. him getting the jump and using the power to gap you.

06-26-2019, 10:46 PM	#21
Doc_Scott Drives: GMC Terrain Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: League City Posts: 28	Intake, TB, pulley, tune, tires. Call it a day.

06-28-2019, 04:21 AM	#22
wnta1ss Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NH Posts: 1,713	Hellcats have been out for years now, so I have seen plenty of them run the 1/4 mile. Have never seen a Hellcat on street tires that runs as quick as a stock A10 ZL1 on the dragstrip here.

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