[Tyl3r]

They should have put the SS tech in the rest of their lineup.

[Chazzz]

The substantial price Decrease on the I4 and V6 should help improve Camaro sales for 2019... up to $3 less vs an 18 on a 2LT... also substantial decreases on 1LT and entry level LS models are in the cards for the refresh. Not going to help already bad used Camaro values I'm sure! The price you gotta pay to play....

[camaroJD]

Hopefully this means great November/December incentives.

[CamaroSS50]

Originally Posted by Turkish01

Every automobile manufacturer car sales are down, even Honda and Toyota. Sedan sales account for less then 30% of the market now in the us. Hope everyone like cuvs because soon that all there will be

According to this article, GM is the only one in negative territory.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...es/1188847002/

[torqueaddict]

Originally Posted by CamaroSS50

According to this article, GM is the only one in negative territory.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...es/1188847002/

GM isn't reporting monthly numbers. Car sales are down across the board.

[Turkish01]

Originally Posted by CamaroSS50

According to this article, GM is the only one in negative territory.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...es/1188847002/

I said sedan sales, not suv and crossovers. How’s the accord am Camry doing?

Japanese automakers Toyota, Nissan and Honda — all known for their stalwart sedans — each reported dismal car sales for August. For each of those automakers, car sales declined 15.6 percent, 16.2 percent and 15.3 percent, respectively.

[DC5]

Oh, no, the sky is falling!

By this time next year, GM will likely announce the cancellation of the Camaro program and I will then have to concede that lack of advertising and limited visibility are what caused its demise.

[JaxChris]

I want to know where some lucky punk found a still new SS sedan. Very jealous.

If GM replaced Malibu/Impala/SS with a RWD or AWD sedan, with a longitudinal LT1 and 10L90 as an option, it would be in my garage. The only technology I want on it is HUD, PDR, and a large touchscreen with a crappy tuner/amp/speakers behind it.

[JaxChris]

Originally Posted by camaroJD

Hopefully this means great November/December incentives.

With GM, it is more likely that they will furlough every factory for 9 months until the 2018 and early 2019 inventory is gone and then skip to 2020/2021 models.

[CamaroSS50]

Originally Posted by Turkish01

I said sedan sales, not suv and crossovers. How’s the accord am Camry doing?

Japanese automakers Toyota, Nissan and Honda — all known for their stalwart sedans — each reported dismal car sales for August. For each of those automakers, car sales declined 15.6 percent, 16.2 percent and 15.3 percent, respectively.

Looks like Toyota (-2%) had negative sales as did GM (projected -8.5%)

All others had positive sales, but less than in the past.


General Motors

Edmunds forecast: -8.5 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: -7.5 percent

Actual results: GM no longer reports monthly sales results.

Ford Motor

Edmunds forecast: -1.8 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: -3.4 percent

Actual results: 4.1 percent (218,504 vehicles)

Ford surprised analysts with an overall sales increase despite abysmal sales of passenger cars, many of which the company is poised to discontinue altogether.

The namesake Ford brand was up 4.2 percent, while the luxury Lincoln lineup increased 2.7 percent.

The company's Ford F-series pickup truck lineup, which qualifies as the best-selling vehicle in the U.S., rose 6.3 percent to 81,839 units for the month.

Overall, Ford's SUVs posed a 20.1 percent sales increase, while car sales declined 21.3 percent.

Fiat Chrysler

Edmunds forecast: 15 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: 10.8 percent

Actual results: 10 percent (193,718 vehicles)

Fiat Chrysler's Jeep brand continues to lift the automaker, increasing 19.6 percent for the month to 87,502. That included whopping 85 percent and 76 percent increases for the Cherokee and Compass SUVs, respectively.

The Ram truck and van brand enjoyed a 26.5 percent sales increase. But the Chrysler, Dodge and Fiat brands were down 3.4 percent, 18.4 percent and 35.2 percent, respectively. The fledgling Alfa Romeo brand nearly doubled to 2,240 units.

Toyota

Edmunds forecast: 0.5 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: 1 percent

Actual results: -2 percent (223,055 vehicles)

The Japanese automaker's stalwart passenger cars struggled mightily for the month, falling 15.6 percent.

But its SUVs, crossovers and pickups increased 7.4 percent.

The Camry sedan plummeted 18.6 percent. But the 4Runner, Highlander and Land Crusier SUVs rocketed up 24.2 percent, 23.6 percent and 22.4 percent, respectively.

Overall, the namesake Toyota brand fell 1.2 percent, while the luxury Lexus lineup declined 7.1 percent.

Nissan

Edmunds forecast: 11.1 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: 6.2 percent

Actual results: 3.7 percent (101,580 vehicles)

Like its Japanese automaker counterparts, Nissan's passenger car sales went one day, while its crossovers, SUVs and pickups went the other day.

Sales of the automaker's cars plunged 16.2 percent, but the rest of its lineup was up 18.9 percent.

The Rogue crossover increased 11.9 percent to 33,400 units, more than doubling the next-closest model for the company.

And the Titan pickup was up 32.4 percent. But the Versa and Sentra small cars fell 53.5 percent and 12.9 percent, respectively.

Overall, the namesake Nissan brand increased 4.4 percent, while the Infiniti luxury lineup declined 1.7 percent.

Honda

Edmunds forecast: 2.5 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: -0.7 percent

Actual results: 1.3 percent (147,903 vehicles)

The fates of Honda's trucks and cars have diverged considerably.

The Japanese automaker's U.S. car sales fell 15.3 percent, but its sales of crossovers, SUVs and pickups increased 18.9 percent.

The company's stalwart Accord and Civic sedans suffered badly in August, with sales down 11 percent and 24.1 percent, respectively.

The CR-V crossover was easily the brand's best-seller as sales rose 11.8 percent to 34,610.

Overall, the namesake Honda brand fell 0.1 percent, while the much-smaller luxury Acura brand increased 14.8 percent.

Hyundai-Kia

Edmunds forecast: 3 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: 3.1 percent

Actual results: Hyundai was up 6 percent. Kia had not yet reported.

Subaru

Edmunds forecast: Not provided

Cox Automotive forecast: -0.3 percent

Actual results: 1.4 percent (64,088 vehicles)

The Japanese automotive brand scored its 81st consecutive month of year-over-year sales increases.

Volkswagen Group

Edmunds forecast: 3.1 percent (does not include Porsche)

Cox Automotive forecast: 4.4 percent

Actual results: The Volkswagen brand was up 0.7 percent to 32,255, powered mostly by the brand's SUVs.

[ssrs2lt]

Wow the Acadia tanked...redesign not working

[speedup]

If all the GM cars have the same 'quality' controls the Camaro does, I can see why the sales are slumping.

Cars needing multiple torque converts, poor fit/finish and rattles out the ying yang.

Sad that a company that has been making cars over 100 years has these types of problems.

[Turkish01]

Originally Posted by CamaroSS50

Looks like Toyota (-2%) had negative sales as did GM (projected -8.5%)

All others had positive sales, but less than in the past.


General Motors

Edmunds forecast: -8.5 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: -7.5 percent

Actual results: GM no longer reports monthly sales results.

Ford Motor

Edmunds forecast: -1.8 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: -3.4 percent

Actual results: 4.1 percent (218,504 vehicles)

Ford surprised analysts with an overall sales increase despite abysmal sales of passenger cars, many of which the company is poised to discontinue altogether.

The namesake Ford brand was up 4.2 percent, while the luxury Lincoln lineup increased 2.7 percent.

The company's Ford F-series pickup truck lineup, which qualifies as the best-selling vehicle in the U.S., rose 6.3 percent to 81,839 units for the month.

Overall, Ford's SUVs posed a 20.1 percent sales increase, while car sales declined 21.3 percent.

Fiat Chrysler

Edmunds forecast: 15 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: 10.8 percent

Actual results: 10 percent (193,718 vehicles)

Fiat Chrysler's Jeep brand continues to lift the automaker, increasing 19.6 percent for the month to 87,502. That included whopping 85 percent and 76 percent increases for the Cherokee and Compass SUVs, respectively.

The Ram truck and van brand enjoyed a 26.5 percent sales increase. But the Chrysler, Dodge and Fiat brands were down 3.4 percent, 18.4 percent and 35.2 percent, respectively. The fledgling Alfa Romeo brand nearly doubled to 2,240 units.

Toyota

Edmunds forecast: 0.5 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: 1 percent

Actual results: -2 percent (223,055 vehicles)

The Japanese automaker's stalwart passenger cars struggled mightily for the month, falling 15.6 percent.

But its SUVs, crossovers and pickups increased 7.4 percent.

The Camry sedan plummeted 18.6 percent. But the 4Runner, Highlander and Land Crusier SUVs rocketed up 24.2 percent, 23.6 percent and 22.4 percent, respectively.

Overall, the namesake Toyota brand fell 1.2 percent, while the luxury Lexus lineup declined 7.1 percent.

Nissan

Edmunds forecast: 11.1 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: 6.2 percent

Actual results: 3.7 percent (101,580 vehicles)

Like its Japanese automaker counterparts, Nissan's passenger car sales went one day, while its crossovers, SUVs and pickups went the other day.

Sales of the automaker's cars plunged 16.2 percent, but the rest of its lineup was up 18.9 percent.

The Rogue crossover increased 11.9 percent to 33,400 units, more than doubling the next-closest model for the company.

And the Titan pickup was up 32.4 percent. But the Versa and Sentra small cars fell 53.5 percent and 12.9 percent, respectively.

Overall, the namesake Nissan brand increased 4.4 percent, while the Infiniti luxury lineup declined 1.7 percent.

Honda

Edmunds forecast: 2.5 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: -0.7 percent

Actual results: 1.3 percent (147,903 vehicles)

The fates of Honda's trucks and cars have diverged considerably.

The Japanese automaker's U.S. car sales fell 15.3 percent, but its sales of crossovers, SUVs and pickups increased 18.9 percent.

The company's stalwart Accord and Civic sedans suffered badly in August, with sales down 11 percent and 24.1 percent, respectively.

The CR-V crossover was easily the brand's best-seller as sales rose 11.8 percent to 34,610.

Overall, the namesake Honda brand fell 0.1 percent, while the much-smaller luxury Acura brand increased 14.8 percent.

Hyundai-Kia

Edmunds forecast: 3 percent

Cox Automotive forecast: 3.1 percent

Actual results: Hyundai was up 6 percent. Kia had not yet reported.

Subaru

Edmunds forecast: Not provided

Cox Automotive forecast: -0.3 percent

Actual results: 1.4 percent (64,088 vehicles)

The Japanese automotive brand scored its 81st consecutive month of year-over-year sales increases.

Volkswagen Group

Edmunds forecast: 3.1 percent (does not include Porsche)

Cox Automotive forecast: 4.4 percent

Actual results: The Volkswagen brand was up 0.7 percent to 32,255, powered mostly by the brand's SUVs.

The point is sedan (cars, as in not trucks, SUVs and cuvs) sales are tanking for everyone.

[DorkMissile]

Also a year ago GM was building more FBody inventory, where as since they are winding down for the change over. I bought in August 2018 and I walked onto three lots and thought all had what I was looking for, there was little inventory on LT and RS cars. The only inventory was higher end SS and ZL1, where as Mustang is a year on into a refresh and is going to keep rolling on production