[nick112288]

Originally Posted by JB'sZL1

Not disagreeing with you, but...

The op is in Indy, not Fla. Many fewer days of driving with the top down. Just sayin'.

We have a joke saying about our area of the country: Welcome to Cincinnati, where the weather is made up and the seasons don’t matter! (I’m in southeast Indiana right on the Ohio border).

There has been many an occasion that I’ve been able to ride my motorcycle in November and December.

If I didn’t think I’d be able to experience the top down then I’d definitely be looking for a coupe with a sunroof instead of a convertible.

[JB'sZL1]

Originally Posted by nick112288

We have a joke saying about our area of the country: Welcome to Cincinnati, where the weather is made up and the seasons don’t matter! (I’m in southeast Indiana right on the Ohio border).

There has been many an occasion that I’ve been able to ride my motorcycle in November and December.

If I didn’t think I’d be able to experience the top down then I’d definitely be looking for a coupe with a sunroof instead of a convertible.

I'm just a couple hundred miles south of the Canadian border, and I wear shorts 7-8 months of the year. So I feel ya.

[FASTNUF]

Originally Posted by nick112288

How's it going?

So I'm currently in the market for a ZL1 convertible. I understand there are differences between the convertible and coupe (elsd/PDR/weight/axle ratio), but having never driven the coupe, am I really going to miss these items? Especially just for street use?

Obviously with a convertible I have no plans to race it. A quick spirited drive or acceleration to make the kids giggle is definitely a possibility.

I've had a convertible in the past, so I know I would enjoy it, but it was not even in the same league as a base Camaro convertible. It was a 95 Lebaron.

On the other hand if those items really are that great, I'm not above a coupe with a sunroof, but if I'm going that route I'm also going to be seriously considering a Hellcat.

Only reason I'm even questioning it is I've got no experience with a ELSD in any vehicle and how it performs, or how the slightly taller gear ratio of the convertible acts vs the coupe.

Everyone's input is greatly appreciated!

Hey OP, I had a 2016Z06 coupe prior to buying my 2017 ZL1 vert and I can honestly state that I don't miss the eLSD at all. Sure, it's a heavier car and yes a smaller rear window to look out of doesn't bother me at all as I can still see out of it and my outside mirrors work fine. Back up camera works when I back up, so no issue then either. Seriously fun to drive, fun to listen to the SC whine scream with the top down! The extremely small difference in gear ratio is no big deal either. As Gunkk states, either you like them or you don't because this thing still hauls major ass and I find fun! Funny that people believe that people living in the South would drop the top more than more Northern people...it was 102F today in Houston and I rather have the top up to enjoy the AC!
Some people like the M6 and some like the A10...it's all about what YOU will enjoy as it's your money and no one else is buying it for you! Wish you lived closer as I would give you a ride and show you how great the vert really is...
Best of both worlds..."coupe like" with top up when you need it and drop the top to enjoy the better days..coupe can't do that!

[conradsteph]

With no tracking, I feel the extra weight is a benefit. This vert feels so solid under hard acceleration with so little sway around corners. It may be heavy but with a little gas, it gets real nimble real quick. I'm in a manual but I know the A-10 guys love their's too. Either one is a winner. And don't let the sunroof option fool you into not getting a convertible - it's not even in the same ballpark as a vert.

[motorhead]

Well, the vert ZL1 still has standard Limited slip which is good, and im pretty sure it too still has 3.73 gears the same as the coupe. The spec book shows them both having 3.73. Is also shows that you cant get the bose sound system in the vert too. Can anyone verify this?

[nick112288]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Well, the vert ZL1 still has standard Limited slip which is good, and im pretty sure it too still has 3.73 gears the same as the coupe. The spec book shows them both having 3.73. Is also shows that you cant get the bose sound system in the vert too. Can anyone verify this?

That may be the case with the manual, but the auto gets a slightly taller 2.77 vs 2.85.

As I said very small change so wasn’t even sure if it would be noticed

[Gunkk]

Originally Posted by motorhead

Is also shows that you cant get the bose sound system in the vert too. Can anyone verify this?

ZL1 vert includes the Bose system standard.

One thing you get with the Vert's Bose system is an extra automatic sound equalization kicks in when you drop the top that boosts the bass up a notch.

It sounds fantastic... so much better than with the top up (which is what I gather is the same as what the the coupe folks have).

[Walkure]

It's a vert with 650hp. What's not to like? Any differences in the gears or weight or differential are too minor to notice.
If you want a track car that maximizes performance, get a coupe.
If you want the most fun you can have driving a car on the street, get the vert.

[nick112288]

So I was reading up on the torque management on these cars and the manual with the ELSD were mentioned a lot as to blame.

Does the convertible not suffer from the same laggy throttle as the coupe?

[Badmojo]

If you don’t do HPDE, then you won’t miss it. The vert will also require a roll bar to participate legally at most tracks.

I’ve driven a A10 ZL1 coupe and M6 ZL1 vert at track days. The coupe has more grip. I couldn’t tell a significant difference on the street going through the twisties.

If you are going to do HPDE, then do not get the vert.


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[17CamaroZL1]

Originally Posted by nick112288

So I was reading up on the torque management on these cars and the manual with the ELSD were mentioned a lot as to blame.

Does the convertible not suffer from the same laggy throttle as the coupe?

I would think all manuals should drive exactly the same due to tune, but I can't verify that. The ELSD has nothing to do with it. There are too many highly modded cars making big power, running 9s through the 1/4, and I've yet to read or hear about a single issue with the ELSD. There are lots of people speculating the diff is the reason for the TM, but I'm not sure that's the case. Time will tell, but if it were as fragile as some have speculated, we would be seeing failures by now.

[nick112288]

Originally Posted by 17CamaroZL1

I would think all manuals should drive exactly the same due to tune, but I can't verify that. The ELSD has nothing to do with it. There are too many highly modded cars making big power, running 9s through the 1/4, and I've yet to read or hear about a single issue with the ELSD. There are lots of people speculating the diff is the reason for the TM, but I'm not sure that's the case. Time will tell, but if it were as fragile as some have speculated, we would be seeing failures by now.

Yeah I wasn’t saying the ELSD is the reason, just speculating that was the cause since I was reading the threads about the TQ management and I think everyone with an issue that chimed in was the coupe so obviously it had the stick with ELSD.

Can anyone with a convertible comment on whether they’ve noticed it in their car?

[motorhead]

Its crazy how inaccurate the build site is.

[17CamaroZL1]

Originally Posted by nick112288

Yeah I wasn’t saying the ELSD is the reason, just speculating that was the cause since I was reading the threads about the TQ management and I think everyone with an issue that chimed in was the coupe so obviously it had the stick with ELSD.

Can anyone with a convertible comment on whether they’ve noticed it in their car?

Hopefully someone can answer your question for you, but I think TM is in all the cars. I think it is mostly there to allow the car to put the power down very well on the street. I wish we had a drag mode that removed the TM when we are on sticky tires and track.