IWIS is here! lol - Page 2 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

lazerlemonta · 03-09-2018, 04:08 PM

I would say they are about the same as the LS3 in weight XC. Frank I am glad to see your going the conicle route. Cant wait to meet you guys back at the track soon!

Redhawt · 03-09-2018, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankwjr

how old? read my post again about early design issues..EVERYTHING has these types of probs..and they FIX them..

Google "Review: Comp Cams New Conical Valvesprings for LS Engines" about post #20 you hear how they held up.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

frankwjr · 03-09-2018, 07:30 PM

[QUOTE=Redhawt;10102716]Google "Review: Comp Cams New Conical Valvesprings for LS Engines" about post #20 you hear how they held up.

I said FACTUAL evidence to support your claims buddy..only thing I ever found negative was on LS1TECH from 2014! so either provide NEW relevant information or else move on with your 7 post's.

u have a good nite now..ya hear?

Clarkstar · 03-09-2018, 07:57 PM

I see PRC has an integrated seat and seal now for dual springs. Texas speed is selling them in a kit... anyone use them yet?

Redhawt · 03-09-2018, 10:28 PM

[QUOTE=frankwjr;10102875]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redhawt

Google "Review: Comp Cams New Conical Valvesprings for LS Engines" about post #20 you hear how they held up.

I said FACTUAL evidence to support your claims buddy..only thing I ever found negative was on LS1TECH from 2014! so either provide NEW relevant information or else move on with your 7 post's.

u have a good nite now..ya hear?

Oh yes sir! I sure will sir! With your almighty post count...

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Rhino79 · 03-10-2018, 03:01 AM

We spintron tested the conical vs the Tooley. The conical looks awesome, less loft and bounce, overall better than the btr looked by a little. But options are small for the conical, and if you break one it’s going to get ugly.

The dual always offers added protection. The singles will make more power no doubt.

frankwjr · 03-10-2018, 08:01 AM

Agreed...but in drag racin there is always the possible that SOMETHING will break...even a dual spring setup doesn't always guarantee no carnage if a spring fails...

and now havin run the PAC's for over a year and a half and still not hearin any negative reports regarding beehive spring failures except for those early LS3's with the yellow springs..I feel very good about movin forward.

and here is another little tid bit to chew on...dual conical's...yup..and they do not rub against ea other so less heat too..http://www.compperformancegroupstore...ct_Code=7245-1
obviously for a BIG cam but you all get the idea...

so huraahh! the track is OPEN today! current DA is -1650! By 11:30 when they start lettin cars down the track should be @ 40 sooo air is gonna be awesome...

PEACE!

Clarkstar · 03-10-2018, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankwjr

Agreed...but in drag racin there is always the possible that SOMETHING will break...even a dual spring setup doesn't always guarantee no carnage if a spring fails...

and now havin run the PAC's for over a year and a half and still not hearin any negative reports regarding beehive spring failures except for those early LS3's with the yellow springs..I feel very good about movin forward.

and here is another little tid bit to chew on...dual conical's...yup..and they do not rub against ea other so less heat too..http://www.compperformancegroupstore...ct_Code=7245-1
obviously for a BIG cam but you all get the idea...

so huraahh! the track is OPEN today! current DA is -1650! By 11:30 when they start lettin cars down the track should be @ 40 sooo air is gonna be awesome...

PEACE!

I haven't seen those... might be a good upgrade for next winter, along with ti retainers.

Thanks for the info

frankwjr · 03-10-2018, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clarkstar

I haven't seen those... might be a good upgrade for next winter, along with ti retainers.

Thanks for the info

My pleasure sir. as I have stated in other threads in addition to tryin to help peeps with probs..I also want to explore outside the envelope without goin so far as to not maintain control..make sense?

I am seriously stoked to get this going and barrin any unforeseen complications hope to have things turned around in a months time..waiting on those last few items to been obtains(took advantage of the 20% ebay last nite for timin cover gasket set, rear diff gasket and a improved racin p/u tube bracket...all fer $65...not to shabby..

l8tr!

Rhino79 · 03-10-2018, 10:21 PM

If I’m running a beehive it will be from PSI.

frankwjr · 03-10-2018, 10:37 PM

oh no! not a PAC vs PSI battle! lol...and why the f where you up at zero dark :30 today? YOU need your beauty rest! peace..

btw -u all goin to be at 'cfest again? l8tr

Rhino79 · 03-11-2018, 06:27 AM

Yes we will be there in full effect!!

frankwjr · 03-11-2018, 08:16 AM

Excellent!..we need a real life demo of ported vs non-ported heads...have somebody get some runs in on their current combo, swap out the heads and see the improvement on the 1/4...now we just need somebody to volunteer...hmmmm...I'M IN! lol

c u t the 'fest! peace

racesloth · 03-12-2018, 06:19 AM

What about these for a 12lb boosted set up using .615 lift cam on TSP endurance lobes - PSI 1516ML

Good to .660 lift -- PSI LS 1516 ML Beehive... 1.290" 0.640" 150 lbs @ 1.800" 420 lbs @ 1.140" 409.0" 0.660" 1.080

I like the 150lbs on the seat and 402lbs open at .615 lift for an FI application.

Good to .625 lift PSI 1511

03-09-2018, 04:08 PM	#15
lazerlemonta Drives: 2010 C6 1LT Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 877 View My Garage	I would say they are about the same as the LS3 in weight XC. Frank I am glad to see your going the conicle route. Cant wait to meet you guys back at the track soon! __________________ 2010 C6 JET STREAM BLUE BOLT ONS TO THE EXTREME, GPI 281cc HEADS, Darth_V8r SPEC CAM, FAST 102 INTAKE, CRANK SCRAPER, QUARTER MASTER 7.25" CLUTCH, RPM 3.90 STAGE II DIF, Z51 Gear Set AND E85 Best ET 10.58 @ 131.8 stock heads and stock cam 453/445 SAE 10.62@134.82 GPI 281CC Heads, SS4 Cam and X1 Intake Best 1/8 6.80@105.75 Best MPH 134.82

03-09-2018, 07:30 PM	#17
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,445	[QUOTE=Redhawt;10102716]Google "Review: Comp Cams New Conical Valvesprings for LS Engines" about post #20 you hear how they held up. I said FACTUAL evidence to support your claims buddy..only thing I ever found negative was on LS1TECH from 2014! so either provide NEW relevant information or else move on with your 7 post's. u have a good nite now..ya hear? __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

03-09-2018, 07:57 PM	#18
Clarkstar Drives: 2013 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Ixonia wi Posts: 1,456	I see PRC has an integrated seat and seal now for dual springs. Texas speed is selling them in a kit... anyone use them yet? __________________ 2013 1le- Katech 416 short block, TSP custom grind cam, LOD intake, cnc heads by F.ED., Nick William's 102mm T.B., CORN fed, Pedders coilovers. Performance street alingnment by Justin at Lake Country Alignment and dyno tune by Late Model Throttle. 603 h.p. 495 ft lbs tq.

03-10-2018, 08:01 AM	#21
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,445	Agreed...but in drag racin there is always the possible that SOMETHING will break...even a dual spring setup doesn't always guarantee no carnage if a spring fails... and now havin run the PAC's for over a year and a half and still not hearin any negative reports regarding beehive spring failures except for those early LS3's with the yellow springs..I feel very good about movin forward. and here is another little tid bit to chew on...dual conical's...yup..and they do not rub against ea other so less heat too..http://www.compperformancegroupstore...ct_Code=7245-1 obviously for a BIG cam but you all get the idea... so huraahh! the track is OPEN today! current DA is -1650! By 11:30 when they start lettin cars down the track should be @ 40 sooo air is gonna be awesome... PEACE! __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

03-10-2018, 10:37 PM	#25
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,445	oh no! not a PAC vs PSI battle! lol...and why the f where you up at zero dark :30 today? YOU need your beauty rest! peace.. btw -u all goin to be at 'cfest again? l8tr __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

03-10-2018, 03:01 AM	#20
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	We spintron tested the conical vs the Tooley. The conical looks awesome, less loft and bounce, overall better than the btr looked by a little. But options are small for the conical, and if you break one it’s going to get ugly. The dual always offers added protection. The singles will make more power no doubt.

03-10-2018, 10:21 PM	#24
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	If I’m running a beehive it will be from PSI.

03-11-2018, 06:27 AM	#26
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	Yes we will be there in full effect!!

03-11-2018, 08:16 AM	#27
frankwjr Drives: 2010 SS 2SS M6 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Smithsburg, Md. Posts: 2,445	Excellent!..we need a real life demo of ported vs non-ported heads...have somebody get some runs in on their current combo, swap out the heads and see the improvement on the 1/4...now we just need somebody to volunteer...hmmmm...I'M IN! lol c u t the 'fest! peace __________________ 2010 SS 2SS M6 - Tune by RDP dynoSteve!(Woot) - Daily Driver - *150K!* - All work by me...

03-12-2018, 06:19 AM	#28
racesloth Dan Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS IOM Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Georgia, USA not the other one Posts: 1,043	What about these for a 12lb boosted set up using .615 lift cam on TSP endurance lobes - PSI 1516ML Good to .660 lift -- PSI LS 1516 ML Beehive... 1.290" 0.640" 150 lbs @ 1.800" 420 lbs @ 1.140" 409.0" 0.660" 1.080 I like the 150lbs on the seat and 402lbs open at .615 lift for an FI application. Good to .625 lift PSI 1511 __________________ Dan 2010 IOM SS YSI-B, Pat G Cam, Ported CTS-V Heads, ARH LTs MBRP 3" exhaust http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...&highlight=ysi Last edited by racesloth; 03-12-2018 at 09:11 AM.