6th gen SS 1LE vs modded 5th gen SS - Page 2

mjk3888 · 03-01-2017, 10:13 AM

Maybe power will feel a little better in your 5th gen, but the 6th gen SS 1LE will FAR exceed the 5th gen in every other way! The chassis' aren't even close to comparable. Same story with interior, technology, suspension, and brakes!

JCunningham · 03-02-2017, 11:24 AM

im running BMR bushings front and rear, delrin cradle, BMR toe and trailing arms, and front rear sway bars. 275/315 tires. will the 1LE still handle better?
im at 477hp 465ftlbs with 3.91 gears
from what im reading now lt headers is only going to net me 15-20hp? these cars dyno stock at 402hp 402ftlbs. so after headers and intake id only be looking at 420hp.
im wondering how much slower the 6th gen is going to be from my 5th gen. I ws thinking that with headers I could match what my 5th gen is now but it looking like I would need to cam it to do it.

FNxR3DNECK · 03-02-2017, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JCunningham

im running BMR bushings front and rear, delrin cradle, BMR toe and trailing arms, and front rear sway bars. 275/315 tires. will the 1LE still handle better?
im at 477hp 465ftlbs with 3.91 gears
from what im reading now lt headers is only going to net me 15-20hp? these cars dyno stock at 402hp 402ftlbs. so after headers and intake id only be looking at 420hp.
im wondering how much slower the 6th gen is going to be from my 5th gen. I ws thinking that with headers I could match what my 5th gen is now but it looking like I would need to cam it to do it.

The much better chassis on the 6th gen means it will handle better even though you have done some good suspension mods, and unless you are running R compound tires the new GY Super Car 3s are most likely better than what you are currently running.

Yes it will still feel less powerful but other than straight line speed the new 1LE should be a way better driving car. And consider that the new 1LE stock does 4.1 zero-60 and a 12.4 quarter compared to the 5th gen ZL1s 4.0 zero-60 and 12.1 quarter (that's for a manual), that's PRETTY DAMN CLOSE... do you think your car is quicker than a 5th gen ZL1 in a straight line? Either way you can't go wrong with the new 1LE, unless you have the cash and want a ZL1 haha

JCunningham · 03-02-2017, 01:48 PM

the 5th gen ZL1 is faster then my modded SS

SSDan · 03-02-2017, 02:07 PM

OP. I did what you're thinking. Sold my gen 5 LS3 with cam and full bolt-ons, 3.91 gears and Pfadt spring and sway bars. It left my hands making 476 rwhp.

My stock gen 6 is faster and handles much better. I don't have time slips to prove that but I do have some back roads where I can cut loose and let it rip. The gen 6 is at a higher mph at the same spots vs. the gen 5 (both straight line and through the curves).

The gen 6 is put together right - great chassis, great engine, less weight, much better interior and technology. I have no regrets at all. I miss my beastly gen 5 from time to time but that goes away every time I fire up the LT1 and head down the road.

Good luck - I don't think you can go wrong. You have an awesome car but if you want something new the gen 6 will treat you right.

JCunningham · 04-05-2017, 11:31 PM

Well i went down to the dealer today and test drove a 17 2SS M6 and it had plenty. it will be mine saturday http://www.upstatechevyofattica.com/...-NY/2802583693
ill do a few things to it. was sad to find out my wheels and tires wont fit on it 315/40/20 on 20x11 44offset. hopefully ill find some 1le or zl1 take offs next spring. ill do some BMR stuff to it to.

ModdedSS · 04-07-2017, 03:40 PM

Good choice. I ran a buddies vengenace built 5th Gen 1LE FBO and cams around 480 whp when i was bone stock and jumped out on him and had him until about 135 and he started pulling because of the top end gains from the cam. Now with intake and ported TB and IM i've probably picked up 30-35 whp he wouldn't be able to beat me

glamcem · 04-07-2017, 04:10 PM

There is a similar thread about modded Gen 5 vs Gen 6 cars

I also agree with others, new 1LE will feel a bit slower since you have a lot of power so on highway pulls or drag racing it will most likely pass the Gen 6 SS. That being said, Gen 6 1LE is slightly faster than Gen 5 Z28 (even without the lighter 19" wheels, Trofeo R tires and those carbon ceramic brakes) at West coast tracks (driven by Randy Pobst).

This is what I posted in the other thread:

My friend's 2014 Camaro 1LE (LS3 with Header, intake and tune) vs my 2017 Camaro SS 1LE (bone stock LT1 engine) Same dyno, different days but very similar conditions:

Cars are identical up top but the low end torque advantage of the 1LE is very apparent

03-01-2017, 10:13 AM	#15
mjk3888 "M1SS1LE" Drives: 2017 SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 2,906	Maybe power will feel a little better in your 5th gen, but the 6th gen SS 1LE will FAR exceed the 5th gen in every other way! The chassis' aren't even close to comparable. Same story with interior, technology, suspension, and brakes! __________________ MJK3888 Instagram Link

03-02-2017, 11:24 AM	#16
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,069	im running BMR bushings front and rear, delrin cradle, BMR toe and trailing arms, and front rear sway bars. 275/315 tires. will the 1LE still handle better? im at 477hp 465ftlbs with 3.91 gears from what im reading now lt headers is only going to net me 15-20hp? these cars dyno stock at 402hp 402ftlbs. so after headers and intake id only be looking at 420hp. im wondering how much slower the 6th gen is going to be from my 5th gen. I ws thinking that with headers I could match what my 5th gen is now but it looking like I would need to cam it to do it. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

03-02-2017, 01:48 PM	#18
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,069	the 5th gen ZL1 is faster then my modded SS __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

03-02-2017, 02:07 PM	#19
SSDan Drives: 2016 1SS 6MT NPP Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Lake Murray, SC Posts: 2,261 View My Garage	OP. I did what you're thinking. Sold my gen 5 LS3 with cam and full bolt-ons, 3.91 gears and Pfadt spring and sway bars. It left my hands making 476 rwhp. My stock gen 6 is faster and handles much better. I don't have time slips to prove that but I do have some back roads where I can cut loose and let it rip. The gen 6 is at a higher mph at the same spots vs. the gen 5 (both straight line and through the curves). The gen 6 is put together right - great chassis, great engine, less weight, much better interior and technology. I have no regrets at all. I miss my beastly gen 5 from time to time but that goes away every time I fire up the LT1 and head down the road. Good luck - I don't think you can go wrong. You have an awesome car but if you want something new the gen 6 will treat you right. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS Hyper Blue 6MT NPP 2010 Camaro 2SS Cam/Headers/CAI/3.91 gears 476 rwhp/440 rwtq (sold) Last edited by SSDan; 03-02-2017 at 02:19 PM.

04-05-2017, 11:31 PM	#20
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,069	Well i went down to the dealer today and test drove a 17 2SS M6 and it had plenty. it will be mine saturday http://www.upstatechevyofattica.com/...-NY/2802583693 ill do a few things to it. was sad to find out my wheels and tires wont fit on it 315/40/20 on 20x11 44offset. hopefully ill find some 1le or zl1 take offs next spring. ill do some BMR stuff to it to. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

04-07-2017, 03:40 PM	#21
ModdedSS Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 148	Good choice. I ran a buddies vengenace built 5th Gen 1LE FBO and cams around 480 whp when i was bone stock and jumped out on him and had him until about 135 and he started pulling because of the top end gains from the cam. Now with intake and ported TB and IM i've probably picked up 30-35 whp he wouldn't be able to beat me __________________ Show: C7 Carbon ZL1 Front Splitter/C7 Carbon ZL1 Side Skirts/Diode Dynamics LED Sidemarkers/Tinted Headlights, Fog Lights, and Rear Reflectors/20" Forgestar F14's in Bronze Burst Go: 17" Forgestar F14s in Bronze Burst with Hoosier Drag Radials/Rotofab Intake w/ Dry Filter/EFI Flex Fuel Kit/Kooks 2" Longtubes with Offroad Connections/PRAY Performance Ported Intake Manifold/PRAY Performance Ported Throttle Body/PRAY Performance Ported Heads/PRAY Performance Tune Suspension: Phastek Lowering Springs/BMR Toe Rods/BMR Control Arms/BMR Trailing Arms/BMR Strut Tower Brace

04-07-2017, 04:10 PM	#22
glamcem Drives: '19 RivrsdBlu 1LE ('17 1LE HB sold) Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,686	There is a similar thread about modded Gen 5 vs Gen 6 cars I also agree with others, new 1LE will feel a bit slower since you have a lot of power so on highway pulls or drag racing it will most likely pass the Gen 6 SS. That being said, Gen 6 1LE is slightly faster than Gen 5 Z28 (even without the lighter 19" wheels, Trofeo R tires and those carbon ceramic brakes) at West coast tracks (driven by Randy Pobst). This is what I posted in the other thread: My friend's 2014 Camaro 1LE (LS3 with Header, intake and tune) vs my 2017 Camaro SS 1LE (bone stock LT1 engine) Same dyno, different days but very similar conditions: Cars are identical up top but the low end torque advantage of the 1LE is very apparent __________________ Link to my build thread YouTube Page

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