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Old 02-13-2017, 05:08 AM   #15
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Are the tires on a 1LE 305 sticky enough?
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Old 02-13-2017, 08:40 AM   #16
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The tires appear to be the same on the Zl1 and the 1le the zl1 all ready has traction issues.

I have been doing a lot of research on tires as well...

if you use the ZL1 or 1LE rims and a 5mm space the 315 30 20 would be this.. streetable track tires.. not drag strip lol

toyo r888 100AA
Nitto Nt01 100AA

305 30 20

Pzero Corsa 60AA
pzero torfeo 60AA
contiforcecontact 80AA
Sportmaxrace 80AA
RE070 140AA
Pilot Sport 4 Pending AA
pilot Sport cup 2 180 AA

295 30 20

give up a little width and save 50 to 75 per tire on those stickier tires this could be an option..

F1 Supercar 3 is 220AA is stock 1le / zl1 305 30 20



I would rethink and do cam and heads over the blower but set it up to add a blower later. Meaning the cam with the correct fuel lobe.. what's gonna happen is your slap the blower on and a few months later probably 1 your want more power but the fuel system will not allow it, ya you could use meth band aide but most of the best shops will tell you do it right and upgrade the fuel system. From my 20 years of modding.. 96 z28, 2010 SS, and now the 2016 SS a good set of heads and a cam will match any stock level blower probably even beat it, especially when we get in the summer months.

You could do the cam, heads, and e85 tune and be around 560 or 580 at the wheels Houston House of power all ready has one running around. when you get bored then you put your blower on then the Lt4 pump and lift pump and injectors. this might lesson the blow to the wallet instead the blower and fuel upgrades at once... Also you might just stick with the heads and cam since it sounds like the 1le setup for track events.
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Old 02-14-2017, 03:35 PM   #17
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The tires appear to be the same on the Zl1 and the 1le the zl1 all ready has traction issues.

I have been doing a lot of research on tires as well...

if you use the ZL1 or 1LE rims and a 5mm space the 315 30 20 would be this.. streetable track tires.. not drag strip lol

toyo r888 100AA
Nitto Nt01 100AA

305 30 20

Pzero Corsa 60AA
pzero torfeo 60AA
contiforcecontact 80AA
Sportmaxrace 80AA
RE070 140AA
Pilot Sport 4 Pending AA
pilot Sport cup 2 180 AA

295 30 20

give up a little width and save 50 to 75 per tire on those stickier tires this could be an option..

F1 Supercar 3 is 220AA is stock 1le / zl1 305 30 20



I would rethink and do cam and heads over the blower but set it up to add a blower later. Meaning the cam with the correct fuel lobe.. what's gonna happen is your slap the blower on and a few months later probably 1 your want more power but the fuel system will not allow it, ya you could use meth band aide but most of the best shops will tell you do it right and upgrade the fuel system. From my 20 years of modding.. 96 z28, 2010 SS, and now the 2016 SS a good set of heads and a cam will match any stock level blower probably even beat it, especially when we get in the summer months.

You could do the cam, heads, and e85 tune and be around 560 or 580 at the wheels Houston House of power all ready has one running around. when you get bored then you put your blower on then the Lt4 pump and lift pump and injectors. this might lesson the blow to the wallet instead the blower and fuel upgrades at once... Also you might just stick with the heads and cam since it sounds like the 1le setup for track events.
I was looking to go to HHP for almost the same setup. Do you know any specifics of that '16 SS you mentioned. I've seen videos of that thing online and needless to say that thing moves.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:41 AM   #18
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The ZL1 having traction issues reported could be due to a lot of things. I've read positive reviews about the F1 Supercar 3's as well though. If I could do it all over again I'd still pay the premium for the Pilot Super Sports. I wasn't having any traction problems with those tires in the same size when I was putting down the same power in a lighter car. They heat up very quickly so you can drive at colder temps and maintain traction. I had no issues at all with grip with temps in the 30's once they warmed up. They're rated 300AA for wear & traction, so the next gen must improve on that.

However if you do a cam, fuel system, and move to a smaller pulley to increase your power output, the car will be making enough power to roast those tires if you floor it. I've only really had one good day above 40F where I was able to drive my car all afternoon since getting it back and it's a monster at WOT in any gear. You can be traveling highway speeds, floor it, and you'll spin your tires in 4th gear (on 100% 93 octane). You either have to adjust your driving or go with a more specialized setup. If you're planning a 700rwhp build, getting the wrong tire could cause you to break your axle or driveshaft if you stay stock in that area. So far I've been fine with the stock axle and driveshaft but I've barely driven the car. I've read it can handle up to 700rwhp. I should be ok though since it's a street car. Once the weather warms up I'll test it more and research if a wider/stickier setup is something my axle can handle after the Michelins wear out.

Even if you stay at stock boost, you're going to need to upgrade your rear arms and bushings because you'll get wheel hop on hard launches. That's not expensive though.
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:12 AM   #19
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It looks like HHP used a 429 stroker kit and Slick rick Racing Heads, not sure on cam going by there site they use a lot BTR stuff and have Pat G design cams. I was thinking they used a stock block. 589 rwhp and 572 rwtq. I still think the NA and good fuel system would do just fine..

Raced a vette last week mods, e85, headers, and cam. vette pulled every time.. made me wish I was in Old Yeller!
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Old 02-15-2017, 08:17 AM   #20
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It looks like HHP used a 429 stroker kit and Slick rick Racing Heads, not sure on cam going by there site they use a lot BTR stuff and have Pat G design cams. I was thinking they used a stock block. 589 rwhp and 572 rwtq. I still think the NA and good fuel system would do just fine..

Raced a vette last week mods, e85, headers, and cam. vette pulled every time.. made me wish I was in Old Yeller!
Hey I finally saw the episode on Velocity channel on Saturday where they did you car. I was cracking up at the end when your wife was driving and I thought I heard you say something about there being a cop behind you. I had dvr'd it so it cut out a little early. Can you tell us what happened?
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Old 02-15-2017, 10:43 AM   #21
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Exactly.. so the producer tells us to do a high speed pass for a shot.. sure enough there was a cop right in a bend.. I was like slow down not to mention she was doing 95 in 35 mph on a wet road with standing water coming up on that curve.. we slowed and and did a u turn.. for another pass then the cop was right on us.. we were like oh crap but he kept going maybe cause he saw the film crew.. Wasn't a closed road lol like the caption mentioned!

The producer calls me now all the time, I'm his go to guy for camaro episodes is what he says, 2 weeks ago he says to me he has Bridgestone tires and more Borla products ad to do.. I was like heck ya we need tires.. He also wanted a Zl1 and an SS in case Borla didn't wan't to use the ZL1 for the exhasut. Borla has came out with some very nice carbon pieces look them up at the sema borla car.. Intake cover, valve covers, and exhaust tips.. I was going to do the tires and carbon tips and the other car was doing the engine carbon fiber, headers, and ATAK. Well the tire deal fell through apparently the new line wouldn't be there in 2 weeks so we passed going down but I sent my friend and his NPP SS Borla and the producer got back to me and didn't want to use the Zl1, They don't just put the exhaust on like other manufactures do even when they bolt on the same.. Borla tests so extensively that learned with the blower it can change the exhaust note immensely. So they chose the SS friend instead of my Zl1 friend well actually I had a grey and a blue Zl1 lined up for them.

So if your in Cali.. close to Borla they need a Zl1 still.. Hint hint.. if you are I can msg David or his personal assistant.

Any how my friend Aaron with his black SS with NPP is doing the headers, Atak, and carbon pieces right this second.. he's hanging with the girls right now and just sent me a pic. They would of used my car again even just for the tips but I work at course where a PGA tournament happens in a month so its best I didn't go this time as well.
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Old 02-15-2017, 11:22 AM   #22
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That's a great story lol! I can't believe they didn't do a test pass to make sure there weren't any cops on the road.

I don't have a ZL1 but would buy one just to spend the day with Cristy Lee!
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Old 02-15-2017, 12:20 PM   #23
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when we filmed it happened to be during the hurricane last year not much time to shoot..literally it was between rain storms we had planned to go to a drag strip but weather wouldn't allow it. We went to the strip before we left and she had done 13.03 at 114 mph then the idea was to see what the times were afterwards but we had to settle for road test.. we went to the track about a month ago and now 12.14 at 116.. tires were an issue before the blower now they really are she had to lift 3 times. still better than me though I lift and manage 131 in the 1/4 that's on the TT car though.
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