January 2017 Camaro Sales Figures (and vs. Mustang & Challenger) - Page 2

JaxChris · 02-01-2017, 11:31 AM

New car sales across all segments are sliding. Manufacturers with labor contracts are stuck with a glut of inventory because they couldn't fully adapt to the change in market conditions.

If it wasn't for very steep discounting all around for Nov/Dec, the Q4 sales spike probably wouldn't have happened at all.

But the Camaro is still overpriced compared to the competition that the general public looks at it having (pony/muscle cars). On top of that, the Camaro interior is lauded for simplicity but booed for its' lack of cabin storage which makes it impractical as a daily driver. The Corvette is supposed to be the impractical vehicle, but they have more storage space within driver reach than the Camaro. Oh and the new Camaro doesn't fit full sized clubs anymore like the 5th gen, which I never realized until this year was such an important test of utility.

The next Mustang will likely have a price increase for the catch up they played with the Camaro in terms of tech -- but I don't think Ford will risk losing segment leader status by bumping prices over 10% like GM did.

sprtplt · 02-01-2017, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SS 1LE

Two things.

1- People don't buy these type of cars during the winter.
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It wasn't Winter last January and every preceding January?

They stopped the 20% off and sales are back in the toilet.

sdmcss · 02-01-2017, 11:41 AM

Looks like they need more incentives to bring people in!!
I would have one by now if it was not so close to 50K!

SpeedIsLife · 02-01-2017, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sdmcss

Looks like they need more incentives to bring people in!!
I would have one by now if it was not so close to 50K!

GM can't discount the Camaro for the remainder of it's production run..it's simply not practical.

Individual dealers can always discount a car and cut into their individual profits, but GM can't constantly be throwing down big cash on the hoods of the Camaro to make it sell.

gameovergt · 02-01-2017, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by germanicus

I NEVER see Mustangs in commercials.

we don't need advertising!

m666etal · 02-01-2017, 11:59 AM

Camaro is the most expensive out of all 3. Also didn't GM say they aren't selling the 6th Gen to rentals/fleet?

I also assume a lot of people who owned the 5th Gen decided that they've driven a Camaro so now the next car has to be a different brand/style/dimension etc. instead of getting a Camaro again.

FenwickHockey65 · 02-01-2017, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sprtplt

It wasn't Winter last January and every preceding January?

They stopped the 20% off and sales are back in the toilet.

Of course it was. Look at the charts in the OP. Everybody takes a dip during the winter months, especially January.

germanicus · 02-01-2017, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Of course it was. Look at the charts in the OP. Everybody takes a dip during the winter months, especially January.

Camaro has never dipped below 4k.

Bassment · 02-01-2017, 12:39 PM

It's just uncertainty from trump, people don't want to do a large non-essential purchase right now

AlexM · 02-01-2017, 01:08 PM

Out of all the reasons, in my opinion, number one it's pricing. They sold quite good with 20% off, more in line with what a Camaro buyer it's used to.
I was considering upgrading to a gen6 2SS but at current prices they are very close to Corvette C7 teritorry and somewhat out of my range and so for now i'll stick to my gen5.
I followed cars.com sales for the last 2-3 months, not a whole lot of sales, same cars listed for months...

AlexM · 02-01-2017, 01:10 PM

Oh, one more thing: thank you Enator!

SomeGeoffGuy · 02-01-2017, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sdmcss

Looks like they need more incentives to bring people in!!
I would have one by now if it was not so close to 50K!

That is why I upgraded. 25% off a 2016 was enough to get me to take the plunge. Otherwise, I would have waited. I think that incentive ran out January 5th though.

-Geoff

SpeedIsLife · 02-01-2017, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexM

Out of all the reasons, in my opinion, number one it's pricing. They sold quite good with 20% off, more in line with what a Camaro buyer it's used to.
I was considering upgrading to a gen6 2SS but at current prices they are very close to Corvette C7 teritorry and somewhat out of my range and so for now i'll stick to my gen5.
I followed cars.com sales for the last 2-3 months, not a whole lot of sales, same cars listed for months...

You're in luck that the Gen 5 is still a very good car and a tremendous platform for upgrades.

AlexM · 02-01-2017, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

You're in luck that the Gen 5 is still a very good car and a tremendous platform for upgrades.

Yes it is a great car! And that makes it even harder to get motivated to move to a gen6 if the price is not VERY attractive.

Like SomeGeoffGuy said, I'd move to a new one for 25% off. That would be motivating enough for me to make the move.

02-01-2017, 11:41 AM	#17
sdmcss Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS 1LE, 1985 MCSS Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Kansas Posts: 266 View My Garage	Looks like they need more incentives to bring people in!! I would have one by now if it was not so close to 50K! __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS 1LE, White, M6, MRC, NPP, ELSD Past/Current: 2011 Camaro 2SS Convertible, M6, Silver Ice Metallic, Inferno Orange Interior and Stripes - SOLD 2007 Monte Carlo SS, LS4, Summit White, Silver Rally Stripes - SOLD 2006 Impala SS, LS4, Black on Black - SOLD 1985 Monte Carlo SS

02-01-2017, 01:08 PM	#24
AlexM Drives: Used to be 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Northern VA Posts: 636	Out of all the reasons, in my opinion, number one it's pricing. They sold quite good with 20% off, more in line with what a Camaro buyer it's used to. I was considering upgrading to a gen6 2SS but at current prices they are very close to Corvette C7 teritorry and somewhat out of my range and so for now i'll stick to my gen5. I followed cars.com sales for the last 2-3 months, not a whole lot of sales, same cars listed for months... __________________ BEE used to have MyLink with NAV Black 10 spoke FR41 wheels (ZL1 Replica) Roto-fab CF CAI / Scoop and Washer Bottle Relocation KIT Vmax yellow painted ported TB Solo HF Cats with Kooks 2.5" catback SLP Replica Spliter, CF Stripes and CF bowties Hawk ceramic brake pads OEM Strut Tower Brace - Yellow Plastidip Range device - AFM Delete Halo/DRL Harness (Halo/DRL on day and night while driving) Engine Cover/Air Compressor Delete

02-01-2017, 01:10 PM	#25
AlexM Drives: Used to be 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Northern VA Posts: 636	Oh, one more thing: thank you Enator! __________________ BEE used to have MyLink with NAV Black 10 spoke FR41 wheels (ZL1 Replica) Roto-fab CF CAI / Scoop and Washer Bottle Relocation KIT Vmax yellow painted ported TB Solo HF Cats with Kooks 2.5" catback SLP Replica Spliter, CF Stripes and CF bowties Hawk ceramic brake pads OEM Strut Tower Brace - Yellow Plastidip Range device - AFM Delete Halo/DRL Harness (Halo/DRL on day and night while driving) Engine Cover/Air Compressor Delete

02-01-2017, 11:31 AM	#15
JaxChris Drives: '16 2SS GD1 MX0 NPP F55 IO6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 1,298	New car sales across all segments are sliding. Manufacturers with labor contracts are stuck with a glut of inventory because they couldn't fully adapt to the change in market conditions. If it wasn't for very steep discounting all around for Nov/Dec, the Q4 sales spike probably wouldn't have happened at all. But the Camaro is still overpriced compared to the competition that the general public looks at it having (pony/muscle cars). On top of that, the Camaro interior is lauded for simplicity but booed for its' lack of cabin storage which makes it impractical as a daily driver. The Corvette is supposed to be the impractical vehicle, but they have more storage space within driver reach than the Camaro. Oh and the new Camaro doesn't fit full sized clubs anymore like the 5th gen, which I never realized until this year was such an important test of utility. The next Mustang will likely have a price increase for the catch up they played with the Camaro in terms of tech -- but I don't think Ford will risk losing segment leader status by bumping prices over 10% like GM did.

02-01-2017, 11:59 AM	#20
m666etal Drives: Civic Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: NJ Posts: 224	Camaro is the most expensive out of all 3. Also didn't GM say they aren't selling the 6th Gen to rentals/fleet? I also assume a lot of people who owned the 5th Gen decided that they've driven a Camaro so now the next car has to be a different brand/style/dimension etc. instead of getting a Camaro again.

02-01-2017, 12:39 PM	#23
Bassment Drives: 2016 Red Hot 2SS M6 Join Date: May 2015 Location: Ontario Posts: 468	It's just uncertainty from trump, people don't want to do a large non-essential purchase right now

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