[backeddy]

Well i doubt anyone here has more laps at Laguna in a camaro than I do...My guess is it will be right at the Z28 time. However, as any car on the track goes, the driver is most important, seat time = fast. I could probably outrun most Camaro owners in my Fiesta ST commuter on Laguna, because I know the track and I KNOW THE CAR at it's limits......

One thing I do want to note though, as I am on the fence to as what my new track car is going to be, saying the GT350 is $14k more is kind of a catch 22.....Because in 12 months the GT350 will still be worth the $$$, the Camaro won't PERIOD. You will lose that 14K in about 6 months or so most likely, so is it really cheaper?

[Memphis43]

Originally Posted by backeddy

Well i doubt anyone here has more laps at Laguna in a camaro than I do...My guess is it will be right at the Z28 time. However, as any car on the track goes, the driver is most important, seat time = fast. I could probably outrun most Camaro owners in my Fiesta ST commuter on Laguna, because I know the track and I KNOW THE CAR at it's limits......

One thing I do want to note though, as I am on the fence to as what my new track car is going to be, saying the GT350 is $14k more is kind of a catch 22.....Because in 12 months the GT350 will still be worth the $$$, the Camaro won't PERIOD. You will lose that 14K in about 6 months or so most likely, so is it really cheaper?

Yes because as the 1le depriciates it still is cheaper . 3 years from now when someone is paying 34k for the 1le and the same person is paying 60k for a car that will be similar around a track they will be wondering the same thing.


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[mjk3888]

Originally Posted by NCSD

My friends are ignorant.

Haha! Can't help you with that.

[drewksmracer]

Originally Posted by backeddy

One thing I do want to note though, as I am on the fence to as what my new track car is going to be, saying the GT350 is $14k more is kind of a catch 22.....Because in 12 months the GT350 will still be worth the $$$, the Camaro won't PERIOD. You will lose that 14K in about 6 months or so most likely, so is it really cheaper?

I went through a similar analysis before I bought my GT3, and I think it comes down to whether you're paying cash for the car and whether you can financially walk away from the car if you wreck it on track. Cars like a GT3 and likely the GT350 will hold their value. In my case, my GT3 has actually gone up in value quite a bit since I bought it, and I paid cash for it. So financially, I would have been worse off buying a Gen 5 1LE.

If you're financing, the cost of your car goes up obviously, so you're better off buying the less expensive car. Same is true if you ball it up at the track because insurance companies are getting stricter about denying track incidents. But if you can pay cash and don't wreck the car, IMO you come out ahead financially with the GT350 over the 1LE.

[backeddy]

There wont be anyone paying 34K for a 1LE in 3 years...go price a '13 LOL mid to high 20's if you can find a buyer. The car I am thinking about is a 2011 Boxster Spyder, it had a 70K sticker and is still worth almost 60K....That is a great way to keep your $$$ in the bank and have fun at the same time and I figure the GT350 will be the same.

[backeddy]

Drew, you get it! But I will suggest at 1.79% financing there is NO WAY I am spending cash!

[Memphis43]

Originally Posted by backeddy

There wont be anyone paying 34K for a 1LE in 3 years...go price a '13 LOL mid to high 20's if you can find a buyer. The car I am thinking about is a 2011 Boxster Spyder, it had a 70K sticker and is still worth almost 60K....That is a great way to keep your $$$ in the bank and have fun at the same time and I figure the GT350 will be the same.

Talking low mileage. Had a 13 1le on the lot with 8k miles and it sold for 32k.




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[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by backeddy

Well i doubt anyone here has more laps at Laguna in a camaro than I do...My guess is it will be right at the Z28 time. However, as any car on the track goes, the driver is most important, seat time = fast. I could probably outrun most Camaro owners in my Fiesta ST commuter on Laguna, because I know the track and I KNOW THE CAR at it's limits......

One thing I do want to note though, as I am on the fence to as what my new track car is going to be, saying the GT350 is $14k more is kind of a catch 22.....Because in 12 months the GT350 will still be worth the $$$, the Camaro won't PERIOD. You will lose that 14K in about 6 months or so most likely, so is it really cheaper?

Not sure what makes you think modern Shelby's have this fantastic resale value. My buddy just got a mint '13 GT500 for just over $40K. Sticker on it was almost $62K...modern Shelbys have zero to due with Carrol, people know this, and their resale is barely any better.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by backeddy

There wont be anyone paying 34K for a 1LE in 3 years...go price a '13 LOL mid to high 20's if you can find a buyer. The car I am thinking about is a 2011 Boxster Spyder, it had a 70K sticker and is still worth almost 60K....That is a great way to keep your $$$ in the bank and have fun at the same time and I figure the GT350 will be the same.

The Spyder was a low volume, special edition car though. Boxsters in general do not have good resale. If you plan on buying a Boxster to track it, just buy an S. Tracking the Spyder a lot will put a big hit on it's resale value to 99% of Porsche people...

[Memphis43]

Originally Posted by backeddy

Drew, you get it! But I will suggest at 1.79% financing there is NO WAY I am spending cash!

I agree. Also, keep in mind that 1le won't have markup and it also will be eligible for discounts.

So the plot thickens.

A year old 1le that gets bought for 44k will most likely be around 34k in worth. Now depending on what gets negotiated that number just lessens.

From there depreciation after the first year just decreases.

We are also not talking about taxes here as I am just referring to what you were saying.

So in essence the same logic applies.

Will it be as good of a value as a gt350? Most likely not. But time will tell. Up front cost is a big factor to a lot of people.





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[IOMike]

Using that logic, I should be able to get a used 2016 2ss with 15k on it for 34k this fall.

[backeddy]

and when they have the 20% off sale, you will be able to get it for mid 30's. With the dismal sales (130 days of inventory right now) it is not going to be too long. I just saw a 0/0 finance for 72 months commercial on the 16's.

[backeddy]

As far as the gt500 goes, I had one...The problem with those is ford PROMISED to have a limited run, they lied and kept making them, I sold my 2009 for the 1LE I had. I do not see that happening with the GT350. And with Shelby's death and the trust selling off all the assets, there may not be another one in the future. They just auctioned off the first cobra (Carol turned down a $40 million offer for it, because it would be never sold) for 13 million last week at pebble beach. It is an interesting time to be into cars right now!

[backeddy]

It's not going to help sales...there are not enough of us track junkies to buy them.....Also we will get no discounts on our orders. Yes I know this is a different car, but saying it has not been compared to BMW before is wrong as it was...so was the Mustang for what it's worth. I would make a wager right now that I can order a 1LE the way I want for $44k, I will get 1.79% finance (worse case) and in 12 months, it will be down 25% in value. The GT350 or the Spyder will be down too (maybe not on the spyder) less than 5%. So at the 2 year mark, you have lost substantially more that You saved up front and consumables were cheaper too.