[ender2664]

Originally Posted by AdvanSuper

That's not even what I said... You edited my quote lol.

Do you understand that this is a new vehicle and these companies have spent hours and money developing new after market products, so therefore prices will not be cheap in the early months of a brand new vehicle release.

Is that dumbed down enough for you?

I did not intend to edit it. My bad :/

[ender2664]

Originally Posted by AdvanSuper

What's your point? OP is bitching about pricing from a major manufacturers and I'm telling them why it costs so much. That shop just has to make sure it fits once and that's it, they don't have to QC it over and over again and make sure it's perfect like aftermarket manufacturers do.

The shop bends, cuts and welds then they're done. They don't have to worry about making a system that hundreds of people will buy and whether there's a couple of cases of it not fitting some cars. It's one and done for them.

It's really not that hard to understand especially when the car is still new. They just started shipping intakes like 1-2 months ago for ****s sake...

I didn't bitch about pricing, I did not say their system was over priced. I simply asked for comments on what I plan on doing and on a tangent told magnaflow if they had a more affordable option that I'd buy it. There is a big difference between affordable and overpriced.
I know the economics,don't worry

[ender2664]

Originally Posted by My87z28

By the way I paid $35k for my Camaro and it's just as fast (if not faster) than those $45k camaro's (I don't have all that extra weight from all that fluffy $h!t).

Yeah, I kind of wish I didn't get a lot of the options I did :(
I need to do better research next time :/
Next car is going to be a vette or viper. hopefully the options help it keep value better by appealing to a different buyer, but I doubt it.

[drivingagain]

Originally Posted by ender2664

Yeah, I kind of wish I didn't get a lot of the options I did :(
I need to do better research next time :/
Next car is going to be a vette or viper. hopefully the options help it keep value better by appealing to a different buyer, but I doubt it.

Sorry but that does not make sense either. The value is in the beholder. I personally ordered everything exactly the way I want and to me there is no better value in a v8 sports car. If you want a better value per dollar you might want to build it yourself is what I learned.

[ender2664]

Originally Posted by drivingagain

Sorry but that does not make sense either. The value is in the beholder. I personally ordered everything exactly the way I want and to me there is no better value in a v8 sports car. If you want a better value per dollar you might want to build it yourself is what I learned.

I ordered everything the way I wanted it but after having it for a few months realized some of the options I felt were worth the money at the time, informed by others and magazines, in fact are not.
Like I said, my mistake.
Not trying to imply they are bad options or others shouldn't order them.just that in hind sight, knowing what I do now,they are not for me. (Npp, mrc, etc)

[My87z28]

Originally Posted by AdvanSuper

What's your point? OP is bitching about pricing from a major manufacturers and I'm telling them why it costs so much. That shop just has to make sure it fits once and that's it, they don't have to QC it over and over again and make sure it's perfect like aftermarket manufacturers do.

The shop bends, cuts and welds then they're done. They don't have to worry about making a system that hundreds of people will buy and whether there's a couple of cases of it not fitting some cars. It's one and done for them.

It's really not that hard to understand especially when the car is still new. They just started shipping intakes like 1-2 months ago for ****s sake...

My point is that the price I paid for the individual parts was enough money for both the original manufacturer plus summit to have made a profit off of. Then the price that I paid for the stainless pipe plus installed was also enough for a company to make a decent profit off of so that they can pay their own employees and buy more product to restock their inventory. Let's just say that I paid $200 for the stainless steel pipe plus another $200 to have it installed. Now take that $200 for the SS pipe plus the $300 for the other parts, that's $500 in parts, which these big companies have less than that into the actual parts of their exhaust systems. So they are now marking it up $700+ to make up for R&D? C'mon that's ridiculous.

[jamminj007]

Originally Posted by My87z28

My point is that the price I paid for the individual parts was enough money for both the original manufacturer plus summit to have made a profit off of. Then the price that I paid for the stainless pipe plus installed was also enough for a company to make a decent profit off of so that they can pay their own employees and buy more product to restock their inventory. Let's just say that I paid $200 for the stainless steel pipe plus another $200 to have it installed. Now take that $200 for the SS pipe plus the $300 for the other parts, that's $500 in parts, which these big companies have less than that into the actual parts of their exhaust systems. So they are now marking it up $700+ to make up for R&D? C'mon that's ridiculous.

R&D is expensive there is a lot behind the scenes you don't take into account. Equipment, machinery, engineering, lights, employees those all add up.
Sure you could do it for less, but is it proven to make more power, does it drone? While I appreciate a bargain, One thing I have learned is sometimes doing something cheaper or taken the cheaper route is not always better and most of the time leaves me dissatisfied with the end product. You get what you for.

[My87z28]

Originally Posted by jamminj007

R&D is expensive there is a lot behind the scenes you don't take into account. Equipment, machinery, engineering, lights, employees those all add up.
Sure you could do it for less, but is it proven to make more power, does it drone? While I appreciate a bargain, One thing I have learned is sometimes doing something cheaper or taken the cheaper route is not always better and most of the time leaves me dissatisfied with the end product. You get what you for.

I'm a firm believer in the concept of "you get what you pay for". The individual parts that I bought were all "name brand" products, and I could have gone to a cheaper shop to have the work done but I've had this shop do multiple vehicles exhaust and exhaust is what they specialize in. No, mine is not proven to make more power but general common sense will tell you that one low restricted exhaust will produce very similar numbers as the next, a few degrees difference in exhaust bends won't make much of any difference as long as there aren't any choke points. These cars really don't allow for many different ways to run dual exhaust, they'll all be extremely similar. No, my exhaust doesn't have any drone. But I could have and that would have been the risk I was taking, I understand your point there.

I just have a problem paying a company 5-6x their general production cost just due to supposed R&D and mainly because of their name it self.