[ilirg]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS@Gen5diy

There are no parts off the 5th gen ZL1 that are in the 1LE, there not the same car(this is for drive line, suspension, or brakes) sways are not the same, diff is not the same size, its all different.

Now to the OP, look for the new ZL1 to have much the same upgrades as the last gen did from SS to ZL1, hope the price comes in at under $67k but dont think it will, here is why, if it gets the LT4, that is a hand built motor, and a lot more pricey then the old LSA so we may get a new motor to help keep the price down, what do you think guys.

I think it will start out at 65k, optioned out around 72-75k depending on if they make CC Brakes an option.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Hypertrophy

I guess I should have been more specific. In addition to suspension upgrades you get wheels and tires, Tremec 6-speed, higher gear ratio, higher flow fuel pump/pickups.

Bhobbs I see that you drive one. What made you decide to go with the 1LE instead of the ZL1? That's probably really at the heart of asking what the differences are...

I prefer the look of the 14-15 1LE over the ZL1. I drove a ZL1 and wasn't blown away by the power. It was an auto so that may have had something to do with it.

[KaBoom1701]

Some very good points here.

I know when I first tracked my ZL1 I noticed a big different in weight compared to the LFX V6 I used to track.

I would also agree that a base ZL1 vs a stock 1LE on the track is closer than most people realize. It's not until you start modding both cars that you see the major differences. The ZL1 can just take high HP mods and keep on ticking without any major issue. The 1LE is a great car but you can only bolt so much on before things start to break.

I also agree that if there is a new ZL1 or Z/28 that it will be around 70-75k to pick one up. The price bump from the old 2SS to the 6th Gen 2SS proves that.

[NASTY99Z28]

Big brakes,rims, tires, better aero, stronger rearends,halfshafts,blower and better transmission. Plenty of room and parts to add. Just bring money.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS@Gen5diy

There are no parts off the 5th gen ZL1 that are in the 1LE, there not the same car(this is for drive line, suspension, or brakes) sways are not the same, diff is not the same size, its all different.

Now to the OP, look for the new ZL1 to have much the same upgrades as the last gen did from SS to ZL1, hope the price comes in at under $67k but dont think it will, here is why, if it gets the LT4, that is a hand built motor, and a lot more pricey then the old LSA so we may get a new motor to help keep the price down, what do you think guys.

This is what I found on a 5th Gen 1LE.

(Taken from the ZLE-registry website - 1LE Specific Part Numbers:
Strut Tower Brace (LT, SS, 1LE) - 22756880
Wheel Hubs (ZL1, 1LE) (4) - 25954415
Front Coil Spring (SS, 1LE) (2) - 92245257
Front Strut (1LE) (passenger side) - 22812984
Front Strut (1LE) (driver side) - 22812985
Front Sway Bar (1LE) - 22812946
Front Sway End Link (SS, ZL1, 1LE) (passenger side) - 22842515
Front Sway End Link (SS, ZL1, 1LE) (driver side) - 22842516
Rear Shock Mount (ZL1, 1LE) (passenger side upper) - 22836734
Rear Shock Mount (ZL1, 1LE) (driver side upper) - 22836727
Rear Coil Spring (SS, 1LE) (2) - 92195466
Rear Shocks (1LE) (2) - 22812987
Rear Sway Bar (ZL1, 1LE) - 22786260
Rear Sway Bar Endlink (SS, ZL1, 1LE) (2) - 22761221
Rear Lower Control Arm (SS, ZL1, 1LE) (2) - 20942237 (Needed for 2010-2011 car conversion)
Rear Toe Link (ZL1, 1LE) (2) - 22845487
3.91 Gears only ( 1LE ) - 22813040
Front Splitter kit ( 1LE ) - 22950575
Wheels 20x10 Black ( ZL1-1LE ) - 22798741
Wheels 20x11 Black ( ZL1-1LE ) - 22798743

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS@Gen5diy

There are no parts off the 5th gen ZL1 that are in the 1LE, there not the same car(this is for drive line, suspension, or brakes) sways are not the same, diff is not the same size, its all different.

Now to the OP, look for the new ZL1 to have much the same upgrades as the last gen did from SS to ZL1, hope the price comes in at under $67k but dont think it will, here is why, if it gets the LT4, that is a hand built motor, and a lot more pricey then the old LSA so we may get a new motor to help keep the price down, what do you think guys.

There are plenty of parts from the ZL1 that are in the 1LE

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

There are plenty of parts from the ZL1 that are in the 1LE

Your right there are 3 parts, that are taken from the ZL1 only.

Rear Toe Link (ZL1, 1LE) (2) - 22845487
Rear Sway Bar (ZL1, 1LE) - 22786260
Wheel Hubs (ZL1, 1LE) (4) - 25954415

And one of the 2 sets of rims that came on the ZL1, but the diff is not the same, the axles are not, the brakes are not, clutch is not, the trans is not, Do they share most of the same sheet metal, yes they do,so does this mean all SS have ZL1 parts on them?

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by 2SSRS@Gen5diy

Your right there are 3 parts, that are taken from the ZL1 only.

Rear Toe Link (ZL1, 1LE) (2) - 22845487
Rear Sway Bar (ZL1, 1LE) - 22786260
Wheel Hubs (ZL1, 1LE) (4) - 25954415

and one of the 2 sets of rims that came on the ZL1, but the diff is not the same the axles are not the brakes are not clutch is not the trans is not, Do they shear most of the same sheet metal, yes so dos so does that meen all SS have ZL1 parts on them?

You forgot the high capacity fuel pump, microfiber steering wheel and shifter. Also please do a spell check before you post......

[2SSRS@Gen5diy]

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

You forgot the high capacity fuel pump, microfiber steering wheel and shifter. Also please do a spell check before you post......

Some Zl1 came with leather steering wheel's, shifter is the same as any of the SS only the microfiber is new, don't think the 1LE came with the high flow pump, the Z/28 did but not the 1LE.

[drivingagain]

WOW. I mean if you are going to argue be civilized and spell check gentleman. LOL It is going to be ok in reality none of this will matter when the zl1 or 1le comes out. It could be completely different. I do want to thank both of you for the information given. It has been a good read so far!

[Hypertrophy]

Just curious if any of you think any existing corvette parts beyond the LT4 might make it into the ZL1? Or if not the same part exactly, just the technology? Or maybe I should be looking at the new CTS-V for clues?

Thanks, I'll take my answer off the air.

[JaxChris]

I don't think the LT4 will be used at all. More likely we'll get a new motor that produces 600/600 and can be mass produced as a benchmark for future vehicles. I wouldn't be surprised if it has turbines instead of screws, LF inspired head design and weigh less than the LT4. Plus not as expensive as the LT4.

And both of the recent cars still running laps are two trims of the same model. GM learned their lesson on the Z28. People want a complete interior and don't want to spend 20k over the next highest model to get a race car. Instead, they will take the approach which seems to be looking good for Chevy (Z06/Z07) and Ford (GT350/GT350R). Put the bells in A and spend another 6-8k to get the whistles as well. It will fit all the desires for 1LE/ZL1/Z28 buyers.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by JaxChris

I don't think the LT4 will be used at all. More likely we'll get a new motor that produces 600/600 and can be mass produced as a benchmark for future vehicles. I wouldn't be surprised if it has turbines instead of screws, LF inspired head design and weigh less than the LT4. Plus not as expensive as the LT4.

And both of the recent cars still running laps are two trims of the same model. GM learned their lesson on the Z28. People want a complete interior and don't want to spend 20k over the next highest model to get a race car. Instead, they will take the approach which seems to be looking good for Chevy (Z06/Z07) and Ford (GT350/GT350R). Put the bells in A and spend another 6-8k to get the whistles as well. It will fit all the desires for 1LE/ZL1/Z28 buyers.

If the LT4 was too expensive, the CTS-V never would have gotten it. The previous CTS-V used the LSA, just like the ZL1.

GM never expected the Z/28 to be a volume seller. They knew they were going after a niche market.

[IneedAZ]

I would opt for and spend the money for a Copo if they would put a VIN on it to be street legal. However, i do plan to get a ZL1 50th ed if offered and keep my current as a DD.