[Number 3]

Originally Posted by mt3130

Is there typically a long lag between the start of production and when cars show up on dealer lots?

I can't imagine GM would produce cars just to have them sit around for a while before they are sold.

I would guess that the start of production and the sale of the first 6th gen would be within a couple weeks of each other, at most, which is just to give time for transport.

They will also generally stock pile so that on "launch day" every dealer has a car or two to actually demo and sell. When you are building only a few hundred cars a day, that can take a while. Especially if you have a few thousand Chevy dealers that all want a car.

Imagine a huge marketing and advertising campaign and you show up to the dealer very excited to see and maybe even buy a cool new Camaro.......................and they don't have one.

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

I have followed several new car releases and it usually goes like this. Start of production they make a small run of from 200-300 or so cars that are gone over with a fine tooth comb to iron out any production issues. After they pass inspection then regular production starts slowly and then ramps up as inspections of quality show they are being done as expected.
From following the Saturn Sky production, I got one of the early ones that were held for inspection, Vin 251. It was approximately 3 months from the time they started production until I got mine in the first shipment the dealer received. I know some got their's earlier than I did so I would say 2 1/2 months would probably be a good estimate.

The first few hundred are generally CTF and that isn't regular production. That is for quality evaluation prior to. You are right on the ramp up. On an all new car they don't just throw the switch for full production. There a quality milestones that must be met as they ramp up. That can take some time.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by Number 3

They will also generally stock pile so that on "launch day" every dealer has a car or two to actually demo and sell. When you are building only a few hundred cars a day, that can take a while. Especially if you have a few thousand Chevy dealers that all want a car.

Imagine a huge marketing and advertising campaign and you show up to the dealer very excited to see and maybe even buy a cool new Camaro.......................and they don't have one.



The first few hundred are generally CTF and that isn't regular production. That is for quality evaluation prior to. You are right on the ramp up. On an all new car they don't just throw the switch for full production. There a quality milestones that must be met as they ramp up. That can take some time.

My Sky was in the first regular production batch that were held for evaluation for quality purposes. I got that straight from an inside person that I had contacted (he was like the Fbodfather of the Kappa cars) through the Saturn Sky forum about getting a early car due to my first wife's Cancer. He worked with my dealer and even sent the car to the dealer on a rented trailer along with the dealer's demo car. They rushed it as quickly as they could. I got my car in early March of 2006, by June of 2006 I got her into the car for the last time for nice evening cruise in the mountians. After that my wife was no longer able to get into the car and in October she passed away.

[Thebeezwax]

my guess is that they'll retool about 3 months after the reveal... once retool is complete I would say they should hit the ground about 60 from that... so that puts us at November-ish

[FenwickHockey65]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

October production or on the lot?

Production.

[DenverTaco07]

Originally Posted by TheBeezWax

my guess is that they'll retool about 3 months after the reveal... once retool is complete I would say they should hit the ground about 60 from that... so that puts us at November-ish

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Production.

so...that seems really late no?
how long until they make it to the lots after production 30 days, 60?

[ChefBorOzzy]

My buddy ordered a 15 Mustang GT towards end of May I believe and got it early December. I really wanted to order the Camaro, but not sure I want to take delivery in November-January. May put it off a bit until the craze is over.

[JoeP@TeamBeckyD]

Originally Posted by Trans damm

Has GM made a statement concerning when production will start?When will they hit the street?

No...
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Nothing Official...


...
...May 16th...

I'll be there....!









Becky

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

so...that seems really late no?
how long until they make it to the lots after production 30 days, 60?

If you really want, you could probably go back to the Camaro5 archives and see just when the first member got their 5th gen after production started on March 16, 2009. It'll probably be a front-page story from sometime between mid April and late May. That will give you a pretty good idea of how long it takes GM to get the first batch of Camaros from the plant to owners hands

[Mark114]

One thing to keep in mind is that the 6th Gen will be built on a production line at GM's Lansing Grand River Assembly with CTS and ATS. Depending on space available they may have already completed much of the tooling at Lansing. The recent ATS debut might be a better predictor of release dates:

Cadillac debuted the ATS to the press in the United States in January 2012, placed the ATS into production in July 2012, and began selling the ATS in the United States in August 2012 as a 2013 model.

A May reveal doesn't mean they aren't already working on the production line. Maybe I'm too optimistic but I like our chances of seeing the 6th Gen on the dealer lots this fall.

[RLHMARINES]

I wonder if the weather is as bad in Michigan during the winter months as it is in Oshawa to hold back production or shipments on cars with summer performance tires like they have done with the 5th gen.

[RLHMARINES]

Originally Posted by Mark114

One thing to keep in mind is that the 6th Gen will be built on a production line at GM's Lansing Grand River Assembly with CTS and ATS. Depending on space available they may have already completed much of the tooling at Lansing. The recent ATS debut might be a better predictor of release dates:

Cadillac debuted the ATS to the press in the United States in January 2012, placed the ATS into production in July 2012, and began selling the ATS in the United States in August 2012 as a 2013 model.

A May reveal doesn't mean they aren't already working on the production line. Maybe I'm too optimistic but I like our chances of seeing the 6th Gen on the dealer lots this fall.

I concur.

[HDRDTD]

Originally Posted by RLHMARINES

I wonder if the weather is as bad in Michigan during the winter months as it is in Oshawa to hold back production or shipments on cars with summer performance tires like they have done with the 5th gen.

The only cars that production was affected because of very low temps were the ZL1 and the 1LE.

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

If you really want, you could probably go back to the Camaro5 archives and see just when the first member got their 5th gen after production started on March 16, 2009. It'll probably be a front-page story from sometime between mid April and late May. That will give you a pretty good idea of how long it takes GM to get the first batch of Camaros from the plant to owners hands

For reference I ordered mine on 5/9/2009 and received it on 7/31/2009. Just not sure when the 6gen will start taking orders.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by RLHMARINES

I wonder if the weather is as bad in Michigan during the winter months as it is in Oshawa to hold back production or shipments on cars with summer performance tires like they have done with the 5th gen.

There is minimal difference in climate between Oshawa and Detroit. Detroit is about 250 miles south-west of Oshawa and is still within the great lakes region. Over the winter, the temperature is within a couple degrees and snowfall within a couple of inches.

Back to the tires ... if I remember correctly, it wasn't all cars with summer tires that were affected by the cold, because I don't remember hearing about GM restricting production to only V6 non RS cars (the only ones that came with all seasons). It was just the ZL1 & 1LE (probably Z/28 as well). And on top of that, I think it was only when it got extremely cold that they stopped things. Which makes it a few days or weeks of interruption instead of months.