[Drags1998]

Its all the Advertising HOOP-LA, Cams and SChargers do work and do Cost a lot of money!!!! A cold air intake Does NOTHING in Day to Day Driving, (Let the doubters start with Hate Mail) They DO make More power at FULL THROTTLE, But WHO Drives around at FULL THROTTLE on the Street?

[SSport16]

I agree, thought about doing some performance mods, but it isn't worth the $. The cold air intake from GM was on my radar, but I am kind of glad it is taking forever and a day to come out, helping me change my mind. I am more than good with stock!

[SSDan]

Originally Posted by KenH.

I'll admit I have thought about doing the short throw shifter. Would you care to give your opinion on that?

I had the MGW shifter and it was excellent - definitively better than the 5th gen stock shifter. The 6th gen shifter is very good. I've never missed a shift. I don't plan on changing it.

[12blkgrayRS]

it's funny, as I'm reading all the replies. I realized that, I normally track/auto-x my car stock for the longest time until I realize that a certain part will help or hinder my times. Most guys out on the tracks will spend thousands on their car to make it fast when all it does is slow it down. Ihave proven that many times on the auto-x tracks since the 80's. My current car is a 2016 RS stock. My last car was a slightly modified V6 RS, with track susp, brakes, and CAI, along with aesthetics for aerodynamics on the track. and I must say the new car has beaten my best time on several of the tracks I have driven by at least 4 secs on one track. Amazing! Stock, no mods, tires, brakes (upgraded fluid though), susp.
It's amazing what a 300lb weight reduction will do to a chassis. Btw, I even stripped down my last car for weight, gave the v8's a hard time on the track, this one......heh heh....

[Lafourche1]

I think that the 455Hp and 455 pound feet are enough for me to drive the 11 miles round trip to work and back. Most of that is spent at ~40MPH or less. I will track it some, but only for my own enjoyment. Heck, it is in my garage right now while they are resurfacing the road into town. I'll let my truck take that mess for a week or two.

[KMPrenger]

On my 5th gen, I had a good balance of performance and cosmetic changes. It resulted in a pretty nice package that got pretty positive attention for the most part.

On this car I don't need the performance boost. Cosmetic changes will be the vast majority of my changes, while performance changes will be minimal.

But I don't think there is anything wrong with doing a few select performance mods to target something. I'm considering a few performance mods. Intake for looks and sound, and a ported throttle body for throttle response and low end uummph. (not that this car needs low end power), and if I really wanted to go crazy with the throttle response, I'd consider a vitnesse throttle controller, but I'm not sure I want that....very doubtful.

For me it will be rims with more aggressive offset, skirts, chin spoiler, paint/stripes, and possibly lighting. Also, interior upgrades to make my 1SS have more personality on the inside.

[Boilermaker128]

Originally Posted by fastball

With modern engine design and engine management systems, car companies in general are getting the most out of the engine as they design it the way it comes from the factory. It's not just the Camaro - you'd be hard pressed to find much more power in any modern engine without massive upgrades and spending a ton of cash.

In the old days you could get good results a few bolt ons. Now that won't give you much of anything. Don't fall for the ploy of cold air intakes - they are useless in modern cars. Other than for sound.

An SSTC will go from 240whp240tq to 300whp320tq just a $300 e-mail tune on 94 octane. Add a $300 intake and a $300 downpipe and you're under $1000 for around 320whp 340tq on 94 100% reliable DD. Add more if you have E available. 80whp 100wtq gain over stock for $1000 and 2hrs setup time(mostly DP)

I'm sure the 4cyl in the Camaro responds better then the SSTC and bolt ons should be reasonably priced. I'm guessing 400whp on 94octane range for $3000-3500. Turbo/Intake/Downpipe/Tune. Not sure if it'll need an $800-1000 intercooler kit upgrade or if stock will suffice...

[KenH.]

This is a naturally aspirated pushrod v8. It has plenty of headroom, but that headroom doesn't come cheap. If a tune produced 80hp we would all be in line for that.

I had an SSTC and those engines are phenomenal performers. Much more economical tuner than the camaro ss. I am secretly, and anxiously, awaiting the results of some nut job dual charging the I4.

"This is my 700hp camaro. No, it's a 4 cylinder."

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by Techn9cian805

what I don't get are people who spend thousands on performance mods that they wont be able to use on the streets without breaking some laws. now if you track it, then that's something else.

At least for suspension and wheel & tire mods, there is a difference in "driving feel" that generally can't be described in words to a listener or reader so that they can really understand it. But a driver who's sensitive to such differences need not even be 'bending' any motor vehicle laws to notice (and appreciate!).


Norm

[Boilermaker128]

Originally Posted by KenH.

This is a naturally aspirated pushrod v8. It has plenty of headroom, but that headroom doesn't come cheap. If a tune produced 80hp we would all be in line for that.

I had an SSTC and those engines are phenomenal performers. Much more economical tuner than the camaro ss. I am secretly, and anxiously, awaiting the results of some nut job dual charging the I4.

"This is my 700hp camaro. No, it's a 4 cylinder."

Yes hopefully the limits of the newer 4cyl will be better then the LNF, which were still good but you'd have to dive into the motor when around 425whp to keep reliable.

Imagine the Camaro keeping daily driveability, 30mpg, 475whp/tq on 94 for around $5000-6000. Would be a nice sleeper unless you have a Forge VTA BOV for under $200 Pssssssssh never gets old.

[Techn9cian805]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

At least for suspension and wheel & tire mods, there is a difference in "driving feel" that generally can't be described in words to a listener or reader so that they can really understand it. But a driver who's sensitive to such differences need not even be 'bending' any motor vehicle laws to notice (and appreciate!).


Norm

suspension, wheel and tire mods I don't think will be causing many broken laws tho
I'm reffering to stuff like bolt on, superchargers, or other performance mods that increase power.

[DenverTaco07]

The title made it seem you were disappointed in the Camaro - I'm glad that wasn't the case.

[fastball]

Originally Posted by Boilermaker128

Yes hopefully the limits of the newer 4cyl will be better then the LNF, which were still good but you'd have to dive into the motor when around 425whp to keep reliable.

Imagine the Camaro keeping daily driveability, 30mpg, 475whp/tq on 94 for around $5000-6000. Would be a nice sleeper unless you have a Forge VTA BOV for under $200 Pssssssssh never gets old.

A turbo 4 with $5000-6000 in mods to get 475 hp.

So in other words an SS.

Why by the 4 and spend that extra money when for that same amount you get the SS and all the extra goodies that go with it?

Oh I know what your answer will be. Which still makes it silly.

[Techn9cian805]

Originally Posted by fastball

A turbo 4 with $5000-6000 in mods to get 475 hp.

So in other words an SS.

Why by the 4 and spend that extra money when for that same amount you get the SS and all the extra goodies that go with it?

Oh I know what your answer will be. Which still makes it silly.

buying an SS is silly enough...