[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by cbr1100xx

How much "faster" are the A8s in the 1/4 mi? Car and driver has the A8 slower than the A10 (12.3/116 vs 12.2/118). And even if your baseless claim was true, it'd be a great selling point. Gain one nanosecond, A8 shudder, and trips to the dealer.

I guess you have a hard time with comprehension.

I said stock vs stock the A10 was better. This lines up with your beloved car and driver.

The Tuning support sucks on the 10l80.

The A8 tuned is quicker....especially with a aftermarket converter. TCM tune alone drops 3 tenths.

Don't believe me then do some research. Hit up Pray Performance or even check the fast lists out.

[crosive]

Originally Posted by cbr1100xx

A tuned A8 if faster in the 1/4mi? WOW! I guess it matters to somebody.
The A10 is a beast out of the box. The last thing I'd do is throw away $$ on modding/tuning my SS. Didn't buy 455hp to give it the treatment a 4cyl Honda needs. 3.9sec, 0-60 is enough for me on the streets. Lucky me.

be that as it may, the a10 doesn't have the issues that the a8's have/had.

that's why I traded mine in was because of the shudder issue. Sure, it was 100% fixed for me when I traded it in, but it was always in the back of my mind...

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by cbr1100xx

A tuned A8 if faster in the 1/4mi? WOW! I guess it matters to somebody.
The A10 is a beast out of the box. The last thing I'd do is throw away $$ on modding/tuning my SS. Didn't buy 455hp to give it the treatment a 4cyl Honda needs. 3.9sec, 0-60 is enough for me on the streets. Lucky me.

It actually matters to a lot of folks.

Like I said, the A10 is a better choice for those staying stock no doubt. Hell it's a good choice either way. I wouldn't buy a A8 if I wasn't going to tune it. So it comes down to what the goals are. For somebody looking at a 6th gen to mod for straight line racing, a 2016 A8 would be a solid starting point.

I only commented on this thread because I read posts saying don't buy a A8 blah blah which is a BS blanket statement. The A8 is fine depending on what you do with it.

Glad you are happy with 455hp. :Golf clap:

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

It actually matters to a lot of folks.

Like I said, the A10 is a better choice for those staying stock no doubt. Hell it's a good choice either way. I wouldn't buy a A8 if I wasn't going to tune it. So it comes down to what the goals are. For somebody looking at a 6th gen to mod for straight line racing, a 2016 A8 would be a solid starting point.

I only commented on this thread because I read posts saying don't buy a A8 blah blah which is a BS blanket statement. The A8 is fine depending on what you do with it.

Glad you are happy with 455hp. :Golf clap:

Memes like this are hard to fight, King. The internetz have decided that the A8 was junk, period...

[ArmanSS]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

It actually matters to a lot of folks.

Like I said, the A10 is a better choice for those staying stock no doubt. Hell it's a good choice either way. I wouldn't buy a A8 if I wasn't going to tune it. So it comes down to what the goals are. For somebody looking at a 6th gen to mod for straight line racing, a 2016 A8 would be a solid starting point.

I only commented on this thread because I read posts saying don't buy a A8 blah blah which is a BS blanket statement. The A8 is fine depending on what you do with it.

Glad you are happy with 455hp. :Golf clap:

Exactly. I agree 1000%. Some people are just not cars guys, hence why they made the decision to buy the 2019-2020 Camaro. They look like R/T chargers with a coupe configuration.

[gmcvt]

Originally Posted by ArmanSS

Exactly. I agree 1000%. Some people are just not cars guys, hence why they made the decision to buy the 2019-2020 Camaro. They look like R/T chargers with a coupe configuration.

Ouch! I think I would fall into the category of a car guy and I love my 19.

[gmcvt]

Originally Posted by KingLT1

It actually matters to a lot of folks.

Like I said, the A10 is a better choice for those staying stock no doubt. Hell it's a good choice either way. I wouldn't buy a A8 if I wasn't going to tune it. So it comes down to what the goals are. For somebody looking at a 6th gen to mod for straight line racing, a 2016 A8 would be a solid starting point.

I only commented on this thread because I read posts saying don't buy a A8 blah blah which is a BS blanket statement. The A8 is fine depending on what you do with it.

Glad you are happy with 455hp. :Golf clap:

I can completely see your point. This same argument has been made with the 18 5.0 Mustangs....The Gen 3 coyote is awesome and the A10 is great....to a point. But around 850 or so at the tire, 7th gear and reliability become an issue. The 6R80 (in the S197 and 15-17 S550's) has been around longer and has far more hard part and tuning support.
I will probably mod later on but most likely stay N/A. I hope that the A10 will be able to hold 520 or so at the tire, which I think it will.

[ArmanSS]

Originally Posted by cbr1100xx

Written by the ultimate non-car guy; a convertible poser.

Alright buddy, at lest you’ll be able to see me waving goodbye to you as I pass you in a race because my tranny can hold more than 500hp. The convertible aspect may be viewed by some as a waste of a 8k upgrade, but it changes your entire driving experience and allows you to enjoy all the elements of your already amazing performance car on a whole new level. I think most people who have driven a vert would agree.

[ArmanSS]

Originally Posted by gmcvt

Ouch! I think I would fall into the category of a car guy and I love my 19.

It’s just a matter of opinion, you’re obviously not the only one who likes it. Certainly not the worst looking car out there.

[GreatWhiteLT]

I had issues with my A8 after a few thousand miles, got the flush and thankfully had no more problems. Now that I have a few bolt on's and a tune its a whole different ball game. Yeah sure the A10 is nice, but more gears means shorter shift times to hit that same power band as the A8. Also it has no issues that have been reported publicly so far, maybe some people have had issues that are just contained. Both are great cars all around, but don't trash the A8 because someone thinks they have the "superior" transmission. Also not much to talk about with that ugly front end lol. All in good fun though!

[gmcvt]

I thought most of the A8 issues were confined to the torque converter? Seems that that is easily remedied with a nice unit from someone like Circle D.

[crosive]

Originally Posted by gmcvt

I thought most of the A8 issues were confined to the torque converter? Seems that that is easily remedied with a nice unit from someone like Circle D.

be that as it may, those of us that had an a8, especially those like me that had a 100,000 mile 10 year warranty, didn't want to spoil that on something that should have been fixed from gm themselves without having to kill a warranty.

[GreatWhiteLT]

It is the torque converter, but from what I understand it also has to do with the factory tune. The lockout for the converter isn't set to 0, as well as moisture gets into the fluid, which is why they came out with a new fluid to prevent that.

[KingLT1]

Originally Posted by GreatWhiteLT

It is the torque converter, but from what I understand it also has to do with the factory tune. The lockout for the converter isn't set to 0, as well as moisture gets into the fluid, which is why they came out with a new fluid to prevent that.

This...if the trans is tuned to zero out the slip tables and afm is disabled before the shudders happens, good chance there will never be any issues. The combination of moisture in the fluid along with the converter slipping in lockup causes the issue. If you notice the A10 is actually rated 1mpg less then the A8. I believe GM made some tune changes far as how the converter operates in the A10 which costs a little fuel mileage in exchange for no converter issues.