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2012 ZL1 7:41:27 2014 Z/28 7:37:47 Time difference = 3.8 sec Power difference = -75 HP Torque difference = -75 lb-ft Weight difference = -283 lbs (4,120 vs 3,837 lbs) 7.1 lb/hp vs 7.6 lb/hp (ZL1 vs Z/28) 2017 ZL1 7:29:60 2018 ZL1-1LE 7:16:04 Time difference = 13.56 sec Power difference = 0 Torque difference = 0 Weight difference = -60 lbs (3,926 vs 3,866 lbs) 6.0 lb/hp vs 5.9 lb/hp (ZL1 vs ZL1-1LE)
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06-23-2017, 07:55 AM | #254 | |
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06-23-2017, 07:56 AM | #255 |
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Quite possible. In even it's most "soft" setting, the steering is twice as stiff as in Gen 5...and there is a manual override in the Infotainment controls.
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06-23-2017, 08:05 AM | #256 | |
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06-24-2017, 06:40 AM | #259 | |
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The lighter Z06 w/Z07 is overwhelmed by the LT4's power and many reviews say it's nearly undrivable at the limit. After the ACRs extreme aero, Chevy is responding with the ZR1 and ZL1-1LE. Second is the Ring press release and comments by Bill Wise. This was his 125th lap in the ZL1-1LE as they worked to tune the car. "With chassis adjustability unlike any vehicle in its peer group" is Al's opening quote followed by "To make up more than a second per mile on the Nordschleife compared to the ZL1 automatic is a dramatic improvement and speaks to the 1LE's enhanced track features." Tires alone didn't transform the Viper into the king track car...ACR nor the Z06 Z07. Tires alone won't transform your base ZL1.
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06-24-2017, 10:22 AM | #260 | |
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I think you misread my post I said tires were a large part of the difference . I mentioned the shock package the aero ect . and I am not saying that tires will put a non 1LE on par with the track times it has posted. what I was saying from my experience going to a real R compound and wider rubber 325 and 305 is good for substantially better times on track. I look forward to seeing how my regular ZL1 compares to a 1LE on track. |
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06-24-2017, 10:43 AM | #262 | |
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You should post the whole thing if you are going to quote me I said that its the whole package but tires in my experience are a Large factor. Size and contact patch make a huge difference in times around a track also it would be interesting to see Bill Wise drive the regular ZL1 around the ring and see if there is any time differnce also. https://youtu.be/0XIz6XoXTsw |
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06-29-2018, 01:35 PM | #263 | |
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2 min faster than the ZL1 1LE
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06-29-2018, 01:42 PM | #264 |
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06-29-2018, 02:36 PM | #265 |
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That is pure INSANITY!!! Playstation anyone?
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Dreaded football analogy; You can have the greatest QB, WRs and RB on the planet, but if your LT stinks, much of the potential is lost. Quote:
Sublime is the only word that I can come up with to describe it. ZL1 is a world class sports car, yet IMHO it is the sum of all the parts and variables (driver included) that make the ZLE a superior "Ring"/circuit car. Quote:
The difference being that the ZLE suspension is specifically tuned for the enhanced grip of R compound rubber, which in turn enhances the performance capabilities of the car. IMHO, in the right hands, that setup will consistently produce noticeably better times (same driver, same day and conditions). No disrespect intended. Just my humble opinion.
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