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07-03-2022, 02:21 PM | #241 |
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My take is that the SS 1LE is the better car and it costs less. Saw a 2022 Mach 1 at a local Ford dealer that was about $63K MSRP. No way that car is worth $15K more than my 2022 1SS 1LE.
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07-03-2022, 04:19 PM | #242 |
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I agree. Most of the Mach 1s I've seen are $60k plus too.
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07-03-2022, 05:12 PM | #243 | |
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Also once 2025 rolls around and pony car buyers go out looking for a new car to buy, and the 6th gen leaves the market, that entire paradigm may change substantially with whatever S650 offers vs whatever it's direct competition is left for it.
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My buddy is waiting delivery of his Mach 1 with track pack. Crazy amount of money ($67K MSRP) relative to my 2SS 1LE, but he's a Mustang guy. We both track our cars and he knows how well the 1LE handles because we are usually on the track together, but all of that doesn't matter to him.
I suppose another way to look at things is that the Mach 1 is a pretty good performance value when compared to non-Camaro alternatives (used GT350, C8, Caymen, BMW M2, C8). It's just that the SS 1LE is an insane performance value compared to EVERY alternative. |
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That said, at its price and content, I don't think it is a bargain in any way.
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The Mach 1 on the other hand, is just what the GT PP should have been all along.
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07-04-2022, 08:46 AM | #248 |
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And that last part is what I had been saying on the Mustang forum ever since PP2 launched with Cup 2 tires on a car that Ford straight up said “is not a track car”.
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Yeah they mucked up that one.
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I think they took more than 10 hp away from the Mach 1, that or something was wrong with the one C&D recently tested. The latest Car and Driver comparison vs the manual 23 Z test, the M6 Mach 1 went 13.1 at 108 mph. For over 60k you can have a car slightly quicker than a 6th Gen V6 Camaro or a 2002 Camaro SS or Trans Am WS6. Congrats! And out of curiosity I built a Mach 1 premium today with handling package, auto, elite, Nav, and Recaros - didn’t even get the appearance package or a special paint color - and it came out to just under $69k. That was the msrp of my ZL1. Ha!
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