[LesBaer]

Originally Posted by Cameron27

I think you have it mixed up. There are a few people who made a mistake, but most didn't make a mistake going with V6. I didn't stumble into my $30k car by accident. I looked at the Mustang, the Challenger, and other cars. I looked at the Camaro. I researched and visited multiple dealerships & did multiple test drives. I had no intention of buying a V8. I specifically wanted a V6 in a nice package. The V8 is too damn loud, powerful & fun, but not for me. I do wish I got NPP exhaust on the V6, as that brings it to the absolute perfect sound pitch & level, but stock sound is still quite nice. I'm not sure why you think the V8 is somehow what V6 owners are lusting after.

I don't have anything mixed up. I know what the Camaro is and bought this car because of how well it excels at doing those things. There isn't a single thing that this car does that matters that the V6 does better than the V8. This is my opinion and literally every review of the car states essentially the same thing. I was not trying to single out anyone - especially anyone who thinks a stock exhaust is too loud. Personally, I don't understand the circumstance that someone would face where buying this car right now as a V6 made any sense at all unless you live in NYC and can't afford the insanely expensive insurance for a V8.

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by LesBaer

I don't have anything mixed up. I know what the Camaro is and bought this car because of how well it excels at doing those things. There isn't a single thing that this car does that matters that the V6 does better than the V8. This is my opinion and literally every review of the car states essentially the same thing. I was not trying to single out anyone - especially anyone who thinks a stock exhaust is too loud. Personally, I don't understand the circumstance that someone would face where buying this car right now as a V6 made any sense at all unless you live in NYC and can't afford the insanely expensive insurance for a V8.

Oh I dunno.. Maybe its because you can get one about $10k cheaper than an SS.

[jdasnt3]

As an enthusiast, I'd be happy with any of the engine choices but for different reasons.

V8: Fun at the track, great engine/exhaust sound, head turner on the street, but too fast for the street in my town.

V6: More than fast enough for the street, decent gas mileage, decent engine/exhaust sound with NPP, but not a platform for modifying for more performance.

V4: Decently quick and fun, great gas mileage, terrible engine/exhaust sound (my opinion), and can be made relatively fast with the aftermarket (a couple in the 11's and 12's now).

Best bang for the buck if you want fast and cheap would be the turbo 4 modded with the available aftermarket.

[LesBaer]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

I saw your sig and suddenly I think you're a "tad" biased at 700+ RWHP.. pretty damn impressive.. but I have no real issues with my V6 and what I paid for it.. there's more to a car than its engine.

This is what the V6 Camaro appeals to. Single college / young adults who don't quite make $70k+ a year that it takes to feasibly afford an SS but still want a sporty coup.. There's no sin in that. Also you like many others are comparing apples and oranges in the prices of the V6 and V8.. if you're going to compare them, you need to compare them with similar option packages equipped.. meaning.. a 1LT to a 1SS or a 2LT to a 2SS.. a 2LT and 1SS are built for entirely different markets...The REAL price difference between a V6 and a V8 is actually closer to $10,000... so with that there is a justified reason the V6's exist. They will not attract the same crowd. 1SS are for those who just want it to blast down the track, don't care about creature comforts, ect. 2LT are for those who spend alot of time on the highway, ARE NOT BUYING IT FOR A GARAGE QUEEN, and want the extra features to keep them content on their commute.. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT HORSEPOWER

On a side note, I can't help but wonder how many of you have really owned a sports car before the 5th Gen, because quiet as kept the 1LT V6 is pretty close to LS1 territory and there was a time when LS1's were king of the road and there was nothing of practicality that could beat them short of a Ford Lightening or SVT Cobra, ect.. 98% of the drivers on the road don't even need THAT much power.. You're speaking in the heart of an enthusiast.. and not a practical driver of which the V6 is aimed for, and not every practical driver needs a back seat (in essence, single's)

You're right I'm biased. It's my personal perspective on the whole thing. And you're right, there are people that buy a sports car that don't care about power. That doesn't compute for me, and that's just me. I'm 42 and this is my second car. I'm the only person I can speak for. I just see these forum topics like forged internals for the 2.0T, etc. and laugh. If that's going to be you, all I'm saying is do this right the first time and buy the more capable car. They're out there and it's a great time to buy now.

[14Black1LESS]

Originally Posted by LesBaer

This is my opinion and I'm sorry if it offends anyone. The Camaro is not a practical car to begin with. Think about what drew you to the Camaro...I'm pretty sure it wasn't its practicality. If you want practical, you buy the equivalent of a Camry or an SUV. I don't understand why this suddenly becomes a conversation about practicality for some people when it should only be about which level of performance you need to fulfill yourself. Remember, this is a performance oriented sports car.

Your definition of practicality and someone else's might be two different things so you can't say a Camaro is not practical to begin with. Someone that is single with no kids doesn't need a four door sedan or a SUV, a Camaro could be a practical vehicle. Also, Camaro has never been a sports car, it is a pony car.

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

This is what the V6 Camaro appeals to. Single college / young adults who don't quite make $70k+ a year that it takes to feasibly afford an SS but still want a sporty coup.. There's no sin in that. Also you like many others are comparing apples and oranges in the prices of the V6 and V8.. if you're going to compare them, you need to compare them with similar option packages equipped.. meaning.. a 1LT to a 1SS or a 2LT to a 2SS.. a 2LT and 1SS are built for entirely different markets...The REAL price difference between a V6 and a V8 is actually closer to $10,000... so with that there is a justified reason the V6's exist. They will not attract the same crowd. 1SS are for those who just want it to blast down the track, don't care about creature comforts, ect. 2LT are for those who spend alot of time on the highway, ARE NOT BUYING IT FOR A GARAGE QUEEN, and want the extra features to keep them content on their commute.. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT HORSEPOWER

On a side note, I can't help but wonder how many of you have really owned a sports car before the 5th Gen, because quiet as kept the 1LT V6 is pretty close to LS1 territory and there was a time when LS1's were king of the road and there was nothing of practicality that could beat them short of a Ford Lightening or SVT Cobra, ect.. 98% of the drivers on the road don't even need THAT much power.. You're speaking in the heart of an enthusiast.. and not a practical driver of which the V6 is aimed for, and not every practical driver needs a back seat (in essence, single's)

You don't have to make $70k+ a year to afford a SS. By LS1 territory I'm assuming you are talking about the LS1 Camaro/Firebird. Stock for stock, and I know this is comparing apples to oranges, the 6th Gen V6 is not in the territory of the LS1 Corvette.

[14Black1LESS]

Originally Posted by jdasnt3

As an enthusiast, I'd be happy with any of the engine choices but for different reasons.

V8: Fun at the track, great engine/exhaust sound, head turner on the street, but too fast for the street in my town.

V6: More than fast enough for the street, decent gas mileage, decent engine/exhaust sound with NPP, but not a platform for modifying for more performance.

I4: Decently quick and fun, great gas mileage, terrible engine/exhaust sound (my opinion), and can be made relatively fast with the aftermarket (a couple in the 11's and 12's now).

Best bang for the buck if you want fast and cheap would be the turbo 4 modded with the available aftermarket.

Fixed it for you.

[LesBaer]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Oh I dunno.. Maybe its because you can get one about $10k cheaper than an SS.

There are plenty of used V8 cars in the same range as a new V6...many are even CPO.

I'm not going to say anything more on this. I've said what I have to say. Everyone can do whatever they want with their own money. I know a V6 makes sense for a certain % of people. I would just never do it. I'd buy a completely different car if it came down to that for me.

[jdasnt3]

Originally Posted by 14Black1LESS

Fixed it for you.

Thanks, LOL. I have the V4 mode from my SS in my head.

[Risky Justice]

Originally Posted by 14Black1LESS

You don't have to make $70k+ a year to afford a SS. By LS1 territory I'm assuming you are talking about the LS1 Camaro/Firebird. Stock for stock, and I know this is comparing apples to oranges, the 6th Gen V6 is not in the territory of the LS1 Corvette.

lol yea, here I am making $40K a year and I got one. Do I have a lot of extra money to go out and stuff? Nah, but who cares...I got the car I love. I still have a roof over my head, food on the table, and that's all I really care about at the end of the day. For me though, this car is the only thing that gets me out of the house, so it was a purchase for my mental health as well.

[Lukemo]

Originally Posted by Glen e

But this goes on on every board, the bigger badder car vs the "cheaper/smaller" one: I've seen it on the BMW boards - the 328 vs 335, the C7 z51 vs base car, etc. and for some reason, it always boils down with the guys who bought the bigger car telling the others all the reasons why the smaller owners bought their car, they couldn't afford it, they settled, etc. " as I said above, it seems to be prevalent on any enthusiast board or hobby. We are seeing the same thing now on the drone boards regarding the bigger DJI units vs their new cheap Spark at half the price.

I suppose there is some interesting psychology behind this, but I'll never understand it

[gpskinzhut]

Originally Posted by Lukemo

I suppose there is some interesting psychology behind this, but I'll never understand it

Elitism.

[Cameron27]

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[Tumba]

Each Camaro sale is good for all of us. Even if V8 sales took a nose dive I'm sure as long as Camaro sales across the other engines were strong we would still get a great engine from the corvette for those who want more performance.

While some people may have an elitist attitude I think most of us are trying to be helpful. After personally buying the wrong new car twice sacrificing performance for practicality I wasn't happy with either car and wasted a lot of money.

If I could tell my past self to drive something cheap, work hard, and save for the car I really wanted I could have gotten it sooner. I convinced myself by reading reviews of people who were happy with the compromise vehicles that they were enough. For some of us they aren't enough and compromising will simply leave people like myself feeling like they made a mistake.

Everyone has their own opinion so it really is important to test drive and go with your gut.

It sounds like the OP did just that and is going to make the right decision for them.


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[Glen e]

Originally Posted by Lukemo

I suppose there is some interesting psychology behind this, but I'll never understand it

Oh god no, neither can I.