[Sax1031]

I fully expect the ZL1 to run some high 11s stock. That has what the GT500 has done. And 2010-2012 GT500s and ZL1s have nearly identical power to weight.

[GT5Junkie]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

The video that was posted today produced 0-60 in 3.8 seconds and high 11's on an unprepped surface in warm weather.

Nooooooo. It produced an altitude corrected time of high 11s, which means it actually ran mid 12s. I don't recall them mentioning anything about warm weather either, and it was actually very cold when all the other testing was done. Tucson isn't that warm in January, and Inde is 2000' higher than Tucson. The newest SAE standard that temp is corrected to for measuring HP is 77 degrees if I'm not mistaken, it is extremely doubtful that it was warmer than that. Most likely it was 20 or more degrees cooler.

He pulled off an easy 12.1 with the launch control on the same unprepped surface. He was also still lifting to shift on the runs. The ZL1 has a no lift shift feature. This could have cut the times down also.

If 12.1 is so easy why did other mags run 12.6 or 12.9?

[GT5Junkie]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

Look for today's post on the Motor Trend test. Motor Trend's best test driver says clearly the ZL1 ran under 12 seconds there's a thread on it. If that's the case, the 2011 GT500 is on the average a half second slower. The 2013 GT500 could very possibly and most probably will be faster than the ZL1...it should be with a huge weight and HP advantage, but not by much. The advantage is that Ford now knows what the performance of the ZL1 is, they WON"T release the GT500 until it beats the ZL1. They did that with the 5.0 Mustang. When the Mustang 5.0 was in it's planned production configuration, it wouldn't beat a Camaro SS and couldn't match the HP...what did Ford do, they added Tubular headers and Ford racing CAI. That gave them the slight advantage they needed. The GT 500 will follow that pattern.

Your definition of average is highly amusing.

[eolson]

Again, since the SVT design team has permanently upped the performance of the GT500 to a new level, and the ZL1 has with the Camaro, we'll see how much tweeking they'll do with the next round. I'm sure the ZL1 will get 2-3 more lbs of boost, and put the downforce surplus to work and break 200mph. Erik

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by GT5Junkie

Nooooooo. It produced an altitude corrected time of high 11s, which means it actually ran mid 12s. I don't recall them mentioning anything about warm weather either, and it was actually very cold when all the other testing was done. Tucson isn't that warm in January, and Inde is 2000' higher than Tucson. The newest SAE standard that temp is corrected to for measuring HP is 77 degrees if I'm not mistaken, it is extremely doubtful that it was warmer than that. Most likely it was 20 or more degrees cooler.




If 12.1 is so easy why did other mags run 12.6 or 12.9?

You just seen the vid and how easy it was. Not sure why you have so much hate. Must be worried or jealous. If you are talking about the video where the guy hit the rev limiter so hard it made him go forward in his seat then yes he ran bad. A C6 Zo6 will run 12's with a bad driver...so what. He used the launch system and made clean shifts..nothing more...ran a 12.1.

When did they say altitude corrected?...I must have missed that. What was the DA on that day?...do you even have that information for your speculation?

And you do realize forced induction cars dont have nearly as much altitude correction in the first place.

The car could actually run FASTER (or slower) than the corrected time at sea level. It is just a calculation.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Found it. 4400 feet.

If the time was corrected to an 11.9 the car would have run a 12.2 at 4400 feet. Not exactly the mid 12's you were hoping for...which is still faster than most mag times for the gt500.

That is amazing...unprepped surface and all with a random mag driver. This car has mid 11's in it bone stock with stock tires on a prepped track and good conditions.

http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...ect+ET+and+MPH

[MauriSSio]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Found it. 4400 feet.

If the time was corrected to an 11.9 the car would have run a 12.2 at 4400 feet.Not the mid 12's you were hoping for...which is still faster than most mag times for the gt500 .

That is amazing...unprepped surface and all. Like I said...correction factors for an FI car is not nearly the same. Try again.

http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...ect+ET+and+MPH

How do you know they used fi correction and not n/a correction? Anyways not sure why people are so surprised by 11's if you take the zl1 average trap speed (116) it would need a 1.9 60' time.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by MauriSSio

How do you know they used fi correction and not n/a correction? Anyways not sure why people are so surprised by 11's if you take the zl1 average trap speed (116) it would need a 1.9 60' time.

That would be the next fanboy argument...and a sad one.

I would hope a magazine that tests cars daily would in fact use the correct calculator/know the difference.

If I know the difference and can figure it out in 30 seconds...well you get the picture.

[Sax1031]

The interesting thing about it is that Motor Trend doesn't reference an 11 second run when talking about the testing on that video, just a 12.1:

http://wot.motortrend.com/2012-chevr...el-166377.html

[Mr. Wyndham]

I want to say that there's no point in constructing a glass-ceiling for the ZL1 (or the GT500) at this point...history tells us that it takes about a year and many sold for enthusiasts to report the best-possible time with either car.

It's a simple game of math: 1000s of enthusiasts vs a few dozen engineers & magazine reporters means a better chance for US to reach that magic number.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I want to say that there's no point in constructing a glass-ceiling for the ZL1 (or the GT500) at this point...history tells us that it takes about a year and many sold for enthusiasts to report the best-possible time with either car.

It's a simple game of math: 1000s of enthusiasts vs a few dozen engineers & magazine reporters.

Yes..and as usual everyone wants to compare the best private owner times vs initial mag reviews.

Rediculous.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

I want to say that there's no point in constructing a glass-ceiling for the ZL1 (or the GT500) at this point...history tells us that it takes about a year and many sold for enthusiasts to report the best-possible time with either car.

It's a simple game of math: 1000s of enthusiasts vs a few dozen engineers & magazine reporters means a better chance for US to reach that magic number.

It will be fall before we start getting the best times out of the cars.

[Sax1031]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Yes..and as usual everyone wants to compare the best private owner times vs initial mag reviews.

Rediculous.

I just want Evan Smith to test them both. Stock and on a tire. That would be awesome.

Only mag driver even worth respecting.

[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by Sax1031

I just want Evan Smith to test them both. Stock and on a tire. That would be awesome.

Only mag driver even worth respecting.

That would be cool. But speculation would fly because some would think he (and the people he works for) would favor the ford in testing. Which is a perfectly plausible speculation.