[IMadeYouReadThis]

Originally Posted by Tumba

I believe it's safer and easier to accelerate on the street with low end torque than with the high rpm required by a v6.

This is with a manual btw. I imagine it doesn't matter as much with an auto.

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[Epx998]

> V6 vs V8 Dilemma

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[redcoats1976]

Originally Posted by Cameron27

You're a safer driver because you drive a V8? That's a new one.

I'm not arguing against the V8... but I'm not so sure that's really a valid or true point.

i can sort of understand this.less drama/rpms/shifting inside the car makes the mrs. assume she is not travelling as fast.quicker acceleration but its over with no drama.these cars are fairly quiet,ive had my RS up to 110 while my wife was reading the paper in the passenger seat and she though we were putting along at 70.

[14Black1LESS]

Originally Posted by LtColumbo

If my figuring is correct, the 3.6LV6 makes more power per cubic inch than the 6.2LV8 n/a.

Originally Posted by Marty McFlew

No way...not in tq. That where most of the power comes from to get you going off the line.

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

Actually they're both equal in power per cubic inch. remember the SS is only slightly over 100 HP more power and twice the displacement.

The I4 makes more power than the V6 and the LT1 V8 per cubic inch.

I4 - 121.9 cu. in. - 275hp - 295 tq
2.26 hp per cubic inch, 2.42 tq per cubic inch

V6 - 222.1 cu in. - 335hp - 284 tq.
1.51 hp per cubic inch, 1.28 tq per cubic inch

LT1 V8 - 376 cu. in. - 455hp - 455 tq
1.21 hp and tq per cubic inch

[Martinjlm]

Originally Posted by 14Black1LESS

The I4 makes more power than the V6 and the LT1 V8 per cubic inch.

I4 - 121.9 cu. in. - 275hp - 295 tq
2.26 hp per cubic inch, 2.42 tq per cubic inch

V6 - 222.1 cu in. - 335hp - 284 tq.
1.51 hp per cubic inch, 1.28 tq per cubic inch

LT1 V8 - 376 cu. in. - 455hp - 455 tq
1.21 hp and tq per cubic inch

Not unusual when comparing DOHC to OHV. DOHCs tend to be physically larger even at smaller displacements, and especially compared to a small block. Most 4.0L DOHC V8s are physically larger than 6.2L OHV and make similar hp. Since Camaro I4 and V6 are both DOHC, they should make more hp/l than OHV small block V8.

Boosted DOHCs (like the Camaro I4) can make up to 200 hp/liter. That would have a 2.0L turbo hitting 400 hp (Honda Civic Type R is about 175/liter, Mercedes CLA AMG 2.0T is just under 400 hp, and expected to improve to over 400). Camaro is at 137.5 hp/l. Mustang 2.3T is at 152 hp/l. That's why they no longer offer a V6.

[Need4Camaro]

Originally Posted by Tumba

I believe it's safer and easier to accelerate on the street with low end torque than with the high rpm required by a v6.

This is with a manual btw. I imagine it doesn't matter as much with an auto.

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I haven't driven the Manual and I understand it has two less gears, but from a dig, pulling out with the V6 is cake-walk. Its at the top-end where things get dicey.

[Camarolover85]

Originally Posted by Cameron27

You're a safer driver because you drive a V8? That's a new one.

I'm not arguing against the V8... but I'm not so sure that's really a valid or true point.

That's what I thought lol. I'd say I'm safer in my V6 because I've learned instead of speeding up to cut everyone off I'll just get in line and follow the traffic. The 12 seconds I saved round trip eventually don't matter.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Marty McFlew

True V6 HP is where V8hp was in the late 50s and early 60s. But V6 torque is not there yet. Tq in the late 50s were in the 300s. By the 60s tq was on average high 300s to in some cases close to 500.

Gearing more than makes up for the difference in torque.

Just because an engine is spinning fast doesn't mean the wheels have to be.

Originally Posted by Camarolover85

Yeah, it's a shame the V6 doesn't have the torque to back it up. I wish it was closer to 350 but I don't design engines I design electrical circuits so I don't
Know how much more power can be made haha

Look up brake mean effective pressure.

Basically, naturally aspirated engines have much tighter limitations on how much torque they can produce per litre of displacement. With only so much oxygen, you can only burn so much fuel, which produces only so much pressure. Small gains can be made, but most naturally aspirated engines of the same era are going to be pretty similar in terms of torque/L.

For example, while the 3.6L in the Camaro makes about 25% more hp/L than the LT1 does (93 vs 73) there is only about a 5% difference in torque/L (77 vs 73).

Also, don't confuse torque with power. You're in electrical, so I'll put it this way: torque is sorta equivalent to current, while rpms are like voltage. Power is the product of both.

[Tumba]

Originally Posted by Need4Camaro

I haven't driven the Manual and I understand it has two less gears, but from a dig, pulling out with the V6 is cake-walk. Its at the top-end where things get dicey.

Manual and at top end is what I'm referring to. Mostly freeway was my issue. City driving was fine with the v6 as there was always plenty of power to accelerate in the lower gears.

I'm not saying a v6 can't accelerate safely on the top end just that it's harder and you really have to work the car to get the performance​ out of it when compared to how easy it is with a V8 simply because there is torque everywhere.

This is only my experience. I stated initially to test drive both and that everyone's milage may vary.

I should have stated that I'm specifically talking v6 manual to V8 manual. I imagine an auto would be less of a difference especially with the extra gears.

I personally think that matching or being slightly faster than the lane your trying to merge into is the safest way to do so and has the least impact on other drivers so that's why I accelerate before merging over. If someone else prefers to merge and then speed up that's up to them but as the guy you are cutting off or forcing to match your speed it's a bit irritating. My only point was that the low end torque of the V8 allows me to easily accelerate and merge vs when I was in the v6 I'd have to look at how fast I was going to figure out what gear to put the sucker in because I had to be more aggressive with the rpm.

If you care about freeway driving and are interested in a manual transmission I would recommend doing a few freeway pulls to find out how the power bands work for you. The limit where I'm at is usually 75 mph but when traffic is moving freely 80 seems to be the norm. Semis and similar vehicles tend to do 70. A 65 to 80-85 pull is fairly common for me when merging. I don't like to hangout in the passing lane and only use it for actual passing unless all lanes are slow do to traffic. Once I've passed I get back over and match the speed of traffic until I get stuck behind a vehicle I would prefer to pass again.

Just trying to provide more clarity around my driving style and why I prefer the V8.

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[Jason@JacFab]

Lots of controversy here...

If you can afford the v8, buy the v8...

If you plan on modifying the car at all and want to race at the drag strip if your budget doesn't allow the v8 and you're thinking you need to buy a v6... Buy a 4 cylinder instead.

[Risky Justice]

Originally Posted by Jason@

Lots of controversy here...

If you can afford the v8, buy the v8...

If you plan on modifying the car at all and want to race at the drag strip if your budget doesn't allow the v8 and you're thinking you need to buy a v6... Buy a 4 cylinder instead.

This all the way. The 4 cylinder is a better engine than the V6 in every way. I had it in a 2009 Cobalt SS and you can get some crazy gains for not a lot of money. I've heard people say the V6 sounds better than the 4...not really sure that is true either. Some 6 cylinders do sound amazing, but the sound difference between the 4 and 6 cylinder Camaros isn't that spectacular--both sound pretty good.

Originally Posted by Camarolover85

lol I don't need your acceptance to enjoy my car. I'm not worried about the size of my wiener and don't go parading around town pretending I'm a race car driver. Newsflash, your car isn't a race car either, it goes ONE AND A HALF SECONDS faster down a track. The reality is you just look like a total DB coming online to inform people you're an idiot and don't agree with their life choices. Maybe you should have bought a ZL1 that way you didn't have to be a middle of the pack camaro. I mean, who would buy an SS if they are worried about extreme performance?

I would get a ZL1 if I could afford one. I definitely wouldn't be on here trying to imply that my SS is "plenty fast for me" or "the only realistic engine for the streets". But hey, on the bright side I can just add forced induction and be right where a ZL1 is--as far as power goes anyway. One and a half seconds is a big difference by the way. You probably didn't realize that because you're not into racing or performance. But anyway, I wasn't really trying to get current owners to switch, but this person asked for opinions on deciding between the two--so that is what I am doing. If your feelings got hurt, then it's probably because you're secretly insecure about your purchase.

[LuvMI]

Test drive them all then pick the trim which gives you the biggest smirk, grin, hard-on, ego boost (w/o being a dick) behind the wheel, because unless you have a blossoming money tree rooted in your back yard you're gonna be spending a lot of doe, possibly taking major dings to your credit score and/or even worse, having to wait an extended period of time driving the wrong trim before you can finally rectify your bad choice. Choice wisely grasshopper...

[redcoats1976]

i own a v6 and im happy with it.the loaner 4 cylinder i drove seemed to be making good power though.im not seeing why turbocharging the 6 wouldnt make more power than the 4,although it would cost more to do so.just a matter of cost effectiveness as you would only need to switch wastegates/change the size of the turbo on the 4?

[IMadeYouReadThis]

Originally Posted by Jason@

Lots of controversy here...

If you can afford the v8, buy the v8...

If you plan on modifying the car at all and want to race at the drag strip if your budget doesn't allow the v8 and you're thinking you need to buy a v6... Buy a 4 cylinder instead.

Reaching now aren't you