[ULTRAZLS1]

Originally Posted by kttxz06

Nice, not bad for $1000.



Honestly man, I can't wait to get off of E85. I'm at 8.5 mpg. haha.

DAMN...lol

Im averaging 17-18 on e85 combined. I can get 22-23 on 93. I drive spirited quite a bit but not too bad. But being 93 is near 4 bucks a gallon and e85 is 2-2.50 I usually run e85

[BlaqWhole]

E85 is a huge boost for NA cars. It does need to be mentioned as a mod. There is a "tune" and there is an "E85 tune". They differ greatly.

These Mustang GTs are not doing anything special. They just like to race against cars that are faster so they can look faster. Their competition is the SS. Plain and simple. Not the Hellcat, ZL1, Z06, GTR, or anything out of their price range. Those cars are on a completely different level. But the thing is that they like to show videos of them "beating" stock Hellcats and such instead of videos of them racing SS Camaros and SRT Challengers which is on their level. Either of those two cars with the same mods as a GT and with a horrible driver in a stock Hellcat would have the same results. But they're the only ones posting these videos and it is just to make their highly modded 11 sec cars sound faster.

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

DAMN...lol

Im averaging 17-18 on e85 combined. I can get 22-23 on 93. I drive spirited quite a bit but not too bad. But being 93 is near 4 bucks a gallon and e85 is 2-2.50 I usually run e85

How in the hell do you get 17-18? Bwhaahaha. Dude, I must be really on the gas then. 93 is around $3.80 here. E85 is $2.05. It was $1.99 a few months ago, but it bumped up a little. I usually go through 1.5 gallons of meth in about 3 days. haha. It's gonna be worse after I get my car back as we are going to a 3 nozzle meth set up so. I have a feeling it's going to be drinking meth.

[kttxz06]

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=533886


Well, this should shut them up. Some good stuff in here.

[KingLT1]

I average 15-16mpg on e85 but I have my converter set to not lock until 60mph in 8th gear part throttle. If I set it to lock around 45-50mph it would probably be 17-18mpg. Don't bother me tho because it's not my daily.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by hotlap

@FastCarFanBoy
@Newmoon

Is there an A8 SS magazine review other than the Hot Rod one where they state they were just @&$*ing around?

Point is that no magazine set out to get a max effort 1/4 run in the SS. However, the Camaro6 fast list is developed enough to see the average of 30 as 12.1 sec with multiple hero runs at 11.9. Very unlikely they were all lying as newmoon suggest

The GT* caught up and you are presenting this dishonesty. We can all look forward to seeing what and SS A10 will do against the A10 GT in the reviews this fall.

* GT, A10, PP, Michelin PS, 3.55 in drag race mode

So did MT put a max effort into running 12:10 with the GT? Did they put more effort into that run than they did with the 12:30 or 40s they ran with with the SS? In the 6th Gen HR test yes they made allot of passes but what about the initial passes I mean owners here want you to believe the SS is a high 11-sec car, yet no review EVER has come close.

Stop the whining you all sound like my kids, face reality the GT with its little 302 ci, 5.0 is faster than the mighty 372ci, 6.2 SS in 0-60, 1/4, and top end pulls despite being heavier.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Why would I waste my time being fair/correct when you wont reciprocate?

I list e85 as a separate mod myself...always have. So yes its a separate mod.

E85 tune/tire would work also. Just saying tune is BS. Its not a regular tune.

Where have I not been fair?

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

Did they use it when testing the Camaro and Mustang? Or are you just saying that at some point they have used it?

And I didn't watch the video. And yes I will discredit the run. If you want people who will blindly praise it and take everything at word then M6G will do that for you. I read the article and that particular part of the story stood out to me and so I brought it up. That equipment is accurate to within a certain degree. And even then that degree is based on using the equipment several times and comparing the results. I'm not sure if it is accurate as measured against track equipment which uses sensors that start/stop time when you cross them. And for the record, even if they have used this equipment in the past I still question it's reliability when they are "11.98". Especially since GPS equipment is know to be off by 2-5 tenths in comparison to track runs.

To be fair they were at the track...they just used the data logger equipment instead of the track timers. Why I don't know. Perhaps it was closed and they just rented use of the actual track itself. Maybe they couldn't get the 11.98 using the track timers. I don't know. But you are indeed correct that if someone went around using data log equipment to brag about their times they'd get laughed at. At least they would have been laughed at. Now that it seems the only way the GT is in the 11s is thru use of GPS equipment I bet the Mustang guys will allow it from now on...but only for the Mustang. HAHA!!

If they used it consistently and the results fell in a specific time and you could still say it was within the accuracy then I would give credit. But it seems that an 11.98 could be actually still in the 12s based on the accuracy of this equipment so to me it is too close to call it definite.

Or maybe they used their own timing equipment because I have never seen any drag strip timing equipment ever give you a 0-60MPH time?

GLD used to be my home track. You can see when you watch the video the car has a number on it so it went through tech, so it is possible they rented the track but I doubt cars.com would rent the track to test 1 car. We would have to know what day they went because GLD does host a few clocks off events. There has also been times I have been there were the board doesn't light up at all but the timing equipment still works. Maybe when they get back to hotlap (believe it was hotlap who emailed the editor) they will have a slip or let us know if they used their equipment for all the numbers.

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Now the bombshell gets dropped that magazines dont actually use the timing equipment at a drag strip if and when they even use an actual drag strip to do testing on.

Whats going to be the next big shocker? that magazines and manufacturers dont use timing equipment built into road courses like VIR, SoW, The Ring and they bring their own. How can we ever know the times are accurate...they could be off 2-5 tenths in just a 1/4 mile after all.

This is the part I do find funny. They use their own equipment so everything they test falls in with the same variables.

Originally Posted by Martinjlm

Ok, in all fairness, M6G has an entire thread titled Guess What, Motor Trend favors the Camaro, again... that is up to 65 pages and almost 1,000 posts. That’s on top of any Mustang vs Camaro threads.

The popcorn has more butter over there.

Camaro5 was pretty bad with fanboys and IMO some really out there posts. M6G, takes that cake....no they take the whole bakery. Probably one of the worst Mustang forums I have ever visited lol.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by newmoon

So did MT put a max effort into running 12:10 with the GT? Did they put more effort into that run than they did with the 12:30 or 40s they ran with with the SS? In the 6th Gen HR test yes they made allot of passes but what about the initial passes I mean owners here want you to believe the SS is a high 11-sec car, yet no review EVER has come close.

Stop the whining you all sound like my kids, face reality the GT with its little 302 ci, 5.0 is faster than the mighty 372ci, 6.2 SS in 0-60, 1/4, and top end pulls despite being heavier.

Got it.

The GT* is a 11.8 car. The SS is a 12.2 car and GT* will pull four car lengths on it.

The Camaro6 fast list that shows the average SS runs 12.1, with nearly half running 12.0 or less, is all lies

[whiteboyblues2001]

Originally Posted by shaffe

Camaro5 was pretty bad with fanboys and IMO some really out there posts. M6G, takes that cake....no they take the whole bakery. Probably one of the worst Mustang forums I have ever visited lol.

What's really bad is that that forum used to be much worse with "The Pill" ranting on and on. So, to me, that forum has IMPROVED greatly in recent past.

Also, what I find even more ridiculous is that every time a Mustang owner goes on MG6 and says my motor blew up, they jump down the guy's throat and say he must have done something wrong, like a money shift. Go read the blown engine thread in the GT350 section. There is a guy that tried to put some statistics together to see how many folks on that forum had GT350's vs. how many reported engine replacements. Boy they attacked that guy like a pack of wild dogs. Some folks just can't handle the truth.

Then there are all the youtuber's that bought the 2018 GT's that are blowing engines. They are getting attacked and falsely accused of breaking the car. These youtuber's are huge mustang fans, and excited about their cars, crating youtube channels to the car. Then the engine blows, and all the fellow Mustang guys attack them like hungry sharks. What a bunch of jerks.

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by whiteboyblues2001

What's really bad is that that forum used to be much worse with "The Pill" ranting on and on. So, to me, that forum has IMPROVED greatly in recent past.

Also, what I find even more ridiculous is that every time a Mustang owner goes on MG6 and says my motor blew up, they jump down the guy's throat and say he must have done something wrong, like a money shift. Go read the blown engine thread in the GT350 section. There is a guy that tried to put some statistics together to see how many folks on that forum had GT350's vs. how many reported engine replacements. Boy they attacked that guy like a pack of wild dogs. Some folks just can't handle the truth.

Then there are all the youtuber's that bought the 2018 GT's that are blowing engines. They are getting attacked and falsely accused of breaking the car. These youtuber's are huge mustang fans, and excited about their cars, crating youtube channels to the car. Then the engine blows, and all the fellow Mustang guys attack them like hungry sharks. What a bunch of jerks.

Every car has issues we all know that. But the entire S550 generation seems plagued with issues. Blown engines, broken trannys, bad suspensions, overheating, on and on and on. I would be more concerned about that than a couple tenths on a dragstrip.

[joe944]

Looks like even their website is broken...

On a side note when I bought my ZL1 reliability was a huge factor. At least for the power train. Plenty of examples of lemons on both sides around if you look.

That broken engine thread is pretty telling, though. Some guys are on their 3rd. I couldn't even find an equivalent thread for the LT1/4.

[kttxz06]

Originally Posted by hotlap

Got it.

The GT* is a 11.8 car. The SS is a 12.2 car and GT* will pull four car lengths on it.

The Camaro6 fast list that shows the average SS runs 12.1, with nearly half running 12.0 or less, is all lies

If we use "their" math, then the Zl1 is a 10.9 car since there are a handful of Zl1's, stock, no tire mod running 10.9's. Even tho the avg seems to be low to mid 11.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Stop the whining you all sound like my kids, face reality the GT with its little 302 ci, 5.0 is faster than the mighty 372ci, 6.2 SS in 0-60, 1/4, and top end pulls despite being heavier.

You're smart enough to know this is a stupid comment. I mean come on man, maybe you're right, maybe the GT is faster. We will see. But we know that there are enough difference between the Coyote's DOHC and the LT1's pushrod engine that displacement alone is not the deciding factor. Trolling is one thing, sounding stupid is another thing completely.

Despite what you say, it could be possible that the Mustang is simply testing faster. Get them both on the track and run them both and that will remove a few variables that could be contributing to the GT's faster times. I say it is possible that they both will be within a driver's race of each other. And it took Ford a lot of time to get to this level. Meanwhile the Camaro and Challenger have been here all along even back when you Mustang guys kept trying to say there wasn't much of a difference. So you really don't have anything to brag about. Now even you can see how impressive the SS has been.

And even if the GT does beat the SS in a quarter mile I think we all know how it will play out on the track with the 1LE and the PP2. And I think the same thing will happen with the GT500...if it ever shows up. It should take the straight line win. Whether or not it can keep up around the track is another thing entirely.