[Whis]

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

It's funny, I've been a mod on other forums for years now and folks like old EvoShift or LT1since93 or whatever he's calling himself now just never change. You'd think they'd be smart enough to change up their posting style, or forum info, or even the fact that they'll send you angry PM's whenever you call them out requesting that you email them instead (probably so they can spam your personal email), but nope, same MO every time. IP check isn't even necessary.

The most damning evidence is this forum user thread: http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=435507

The guy posted the video almost nowhere and EvoShift is like the first post being an ass

[xgnxs]

Originally Posted by Whis

The most damning evidence is this forum user thread: http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=435507

The guy posted the video almost nowhere and EvoShift is like the first post being an ass

Wow... "being an ass" is an understatement... Definitely the same guy though.

Side note: the 6th gen sounds amazing in that video!

[MikeyCamaro]

OK. As promised. I have no idea how this compares to the Camaro but here's a video as a point of reference for you guys. This is me doing some paddle testing/timing in my 2015 Challenger SRT. I intentionally exagerated the taps so we could detect any delay by watching my fingers/tach and listening to the sound. I do think there was a small delay on the upshifts (maybe 200ms) and a little more on the downshifts. But I wasn't going full throttle as the speed just gets out of hand too quickly. Might have been a tad faster if I had my foot to the floor. Anyway, here it is:

https://youtu.be/D8LuV3LwCUA

Mike

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by bbrown450

Shift delay ?? In fact, a new, Gen II transmission controller analyzes and executes commands 160 times per second, and wide-open throttle upshifts are executed up to eight-hundredths of a second quicker than those of the dual-clutch transmission offered in the Porsche 911. So I am a little confused as to where the "delay"that you are talking about is coming from. Hey I learned a long time ago to each his own and whatever you want in your car and the reason behind it is the beauty of owning YOUR car

Reading comprehension fails you.

I was talking about when it's in manual mode...clearly stated in my post.

[Whis]

Originally Posted by MikeyCamaro

OK. As promised. I have no idea how this compares to the Camaro but here's a video as a point of reference for you guys. This is me doing some paddle testing/timing in my 2015 Challenger SRT. I intentionally exagerated the taps so we could detect any delay by watching my fingers/tach and listening to the sound. I do think there was a small delay on the upshifts (maybe 200ms) and a little more on the downshifts. But I wasn't going full throttle as the speed just gets out of hand too quickly. Might have been a tad faster if I had my foot to the floor. Anyway, here it is:

https://youtu.be/D8LuV3LwCUA

Mike

That is definitely faster than the A8 in the camaro

[MikeyCamaro]

Originally Posted by Whis

That is definitely faster than the A8 in the camaro

You mean the shift itself or the lag between paddle press and shift?

Mike

[Whis]

Originally Posted by MikeyCamaro

You mean the shift itself or the lag between paddle press and shift?

Mike

lag

[kdu]

OK, here are a coupe of questions.

1. Which transmission (A8 vs 6M) is able to handle more horsepower and torque? For example, if I want to supercharge the SS in the future, which transmission is more likely to handle it without something going wrong?

2. I would like to track the next car I get. Does the A8 in the Camaro have the same overheating challenges of the C7. Someone mentioned it in this thread and I think I remember reading somewhere they had to let the Z06 A8 cool down after a few laps. Is the 6M better suited for the track?

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by kdu

OK, here are a coupe of questions.

1. Which transmission (A8 vs 6M) is able to handle more horsepower and torque? For example, if I want to supercharge the SS in the future, which transmission is more likely to handle it without something going wrong?

2. I would like to track the next car I get. Does the A8 in the Camaro have the same overheating challenges of the C7. Someone mentioned it in this thread and I think I remember reading somewhere they had to let the Z06 A8 cool down after a few laps. Is the 6M better suited for the track?

1- Both should handle the power fine, as for the manual, remember the TR6060 is a newer version of the T56 that has been around for decades and is what comes behind the Viper, Hellcat, ZR1, etc...

2- To soon to say about the autos having overheating issues on the track. But in all honestly, especially if you plan on doing autocross, I would say get the manual for track use. That is an honest opinion from someone who actually does track their cars, unlike most.

[ChocoTaco369]

Originally Posted by kdu

OK, here are a coupe of questions.

1. Which transmission (A8 vs 6M) is able to handle more horsepower and torque? For example, if I want to supercharge the SS in the future, which transmission is more likely to handle it without something going wrong?

2. I would like to track the next car I get. Does the A8 in the Camaro have the same overheating challenges of the C7. Someone mentioned it in this thread and I think I remember reading somewhere they had to let the Z06 A8 cool down after a few laps. Is the 6M better suited for the track?

The TR6060 is a proven transmission with a storied history of reliability. The A8 is largely unproven, but has held up well so far.

The TR6060, mechanically, is simpler and the A8 is far more complicated with more failure points. Heat, for example, is a major problem with an automatic but not a manual. Strictly speaking transmissions, the A8 is at a disadvantage mechanically.

The TR6060 is notoriously rough on OTHER parts, especially the rear. You'll probably be less likely to break the TR6060 itself, but the TR6060 is more likely to destroy axles, gears and differentials. The A8 isn't going to be as rough on the driveline because it doesn't transfer power as efficiently to the surrounding parts.

[ChocoTaco369]

Originally Posted by pdoherty972

Really? No point? So 0-60, quarter mile, cornering, etc are all no fun unless you're working a clutch? That's silly.

Correct. No point to me. The experience is in the control of the car. Blindfold, point and shoot - there is nothing that makes it special. Not exciting to me. What I think is silly is that people are paying $1500 extra to not drive their Camaro.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369

The TR6060 is notoriously rough on OTHER parts, especially the rear. You'll probably be less likely to break the TR6060 itself, but the TR6060 is more likely to destroy axles, gears and differentials. The A8 isn't going to be as rough on the driveline because it doesn't transfer power as efficiently to the surrounding parts.

That all depends how it's driven. I've had two T56's and two TR6060's, drag raced, road raced, only one blown diff and that was on a 5500 rpm launch on ET Streets.

Plus, axles and such are much cheaper then transmissions.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369

The TR6060 is a proven transmission with a storied history of reliability. The A8 is largely unproven, but has held up well so far.

The TR6060, mechanically, is simpler and the A8 is far more complicated with more failure points. Heat, for example, is a major problem with an automatic but not a manual. Strictly speaking transmissions, the A8 is at a disadvantage mechanically.

The TR6060 is notoriously rough on OTHER parts, especially the rear. You'll probably be less likely to break the TR6060 itself, but the TR6060 is more likely to destroy axles, gears and differentials. The A8 isn't going to be as rough on the driveline because it doesn't transfer power as efficiently to the surrounding parts.

The 8L90 has a max torque rating of 738 lb-ft
The TR6060 has a max torque rating of 700 lb-ft

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/03/...-transmission/
http://www.tremec.com/menu.php?m=104

[huggercamaro21]

Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369

Correct. No point to me. The experience is in the control of the car. Blindfold, point and shoot - there is nothing that makes it special. Not exciting to me. What I think is silly is that people are paying $1500 extra to not drive their Camaro.

That's absolutely your opinion. And you're entitled to it for sure.