[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by breakskeet

Guess I answered my own question. From the Performance Supplement:


During track usage, do not follow
the Engine Oil Life System status.
Change the engine oil after four
hours of accumulative track usage.
If 15W-50 oil is used, it must be
changed back to the engine oil
listed in the “Engine Oil” section of
the owner’s manual.

Well, this blurb appeared in 2018 manual but i could no longer find it in a 2019 manual...

Keep this in mind: the above statement does NOT stipulate, mention, or require putting brand NEW oil in BEFORE a track event.

So, one could dd the car until the computer says the oil life is down to 20% and THEN take it to a track.
If that were to happen 4 hr track use (2 track days on average) would likely be a good suggestion. But if somebody changes oil before a track event then changing it after 4hrs seems rather ridiculous waste of money to me. And that's why perhaps this statement seems gone from a 2019 manual?

As i had said before, a member here sent out his Valvoline MST Dexos 2 5w40 after 6 track days (if i recall correctly) for pro analysis and i came back clean.
I change mine every 5 track days or so plus whatever dd i do in between (which aint much).

Cheers!

[The Specialist]

Originally Posted by breakskeet

Guess I answered my own question. From the Performance Supplement:


During track usage, do not follow
the Engine Oil Life System status.
Change the engine oil after four
hours of accumulative track usage.
If 15W-50 oil is used, it must be
changed back to the engine oil
listed in the “Engine Oil” section of
the owner’s manual.

15W-50? Who in the hell makes 15W-50?
This is just as bad as my new Indian Motorcycle. "20W40"
Only one manufacturer offers it.... INDIAN. LOL

[Z0Tex]

Originally Posted by The Specialist

15W-50? Who in the hell makes 15W-50?

Mobil 1. This particular 15W-50 is available at most Walmarts.

https://mobiloil.com/en/viscosity/15w-50

[breakskeet]

Originally Posted by Z0Tex

Mobil 1. This particular 15W-50 is available at most Walmarts.

https://mobiloil.com/en/viscosity/15w-50

+1

It's also readily available on Amazon. Mobil 1 has been making 15W-50 for years.

[jmhinkle]

Originally Posted by The Specialist

Should we really use this oil in our Camaro?
Reading through the literature, it mentions Diesel designed filters.
Does the 6th Gen Camaro come with this type of filter or filters or is it only special in the latest Corvette?

Yes, it is designed with LSPI in mind and for the LT1 and LT4 use. Ever since Mazda put the DISI engine into production and companies started adopting Direct Injection it has been a problem. You can get the wet sump oil fill cap using part number 12686472.

[jmhinkle]

Originally Posted by rlarsen462

Unbelievable...literally just bought 4 cases from Speedway 3/30 and the rebate started 4/1...could have saved $48...

I've contacted Speedway to see if they are an eligible retailer. They aren't listed on Mobil 1, but that means nothing as Summit and Walmart aren't either and they are always eligible retailers. The only hard no is Amazon per the fine print. Still doesn't help you with the 2 day difference in purchase. Did they ship? If not cancel and reorder.

[trohde78]

Is there a big advantage to this oil over Valvoline MST 5W-40? My dealer will charge me the difference in oil price to use the Mobil 1 ESP 0W-40 under the free maintenance plan, which is about the same cost as me using the 5W-40. I'd rather not have the dealer do anything to the car if I don't have to, so not sure if the 0W-40 is worth it.

[jmhinkle]

Originally Posted by trohde78

Is there a big advantage to this oil over Valvoline MST 5W-40? My dealer will charge me the difference in oil price to use the Mobil 1 ESP 0W-40 under the free maintenance plan, which is about the same cost as me using the 5W-40. I'd rather not have the dealer do anything to the car if I don't have to, so not sure if the 0W-40 is worth it.

I can't speak about the Valvoline in this case, but I used it in my Mercedes diesel while it was under warranty and I hated it. It was the only local option that had the correct Mercedes rating. That oil was garbage. After 2500 miles the engine got noisy and things rattled on startup that shouldn't. Truck was supposed to have 10k mile oil changes, but I did them between 4 and 5 just to ease my stress. When my warranty was up I put it on Rotella T6. Same goes for the transmission fluid. Has Valvoline now and it shifts rough compared to what came out. Coming up on the next change and I'll be using something better. I do not care for Valvoline products personally. My experiences have not been good. I wish Pennzoil Platinum was an option while under warranty on this car because I'd use it first every time.

[Airfuel]

The valvoline mst stands for mid saps technology.
Mobil one esp 0w-40 is low saps. (Google it or read bob is the oil guy site)

Low saps is better for reducing direct injection valve deposits.
Valvoline is reported to have weak additive packages and not liked much on the ”bitog”site.

I’ll be sticking to the M1 esp until something better comes around and while under warranty.

[Eldi Z]

Motul: X-Clean 8100, 5W40 here. Works well for me on all my DI engines

[trohde78]

Thanks for the feedback! It sounds like I'll be going to the dealer for the ESP.

[jmhinkle]

Originally Posted by trohde78

Thanks for the feedback! It sounds like I'll be going to the dealer for the ESP.

The oil is expensive compared to other Mobil 1 products. I'm not sure what the dealer upcharge is for you, but if you do it yourself Mobil 1 has a rebate = $24 for the 10 quarts the car requires. Speedway lowered their price to $49.99 a box, but they didn't answer if they are an eligible seller for the rebate. Summit will price match the $49.99 if you call them and is eligible for the rebate.

[trohde78]

Originally Posted by jmhinkle

The oil is expensive compared to other Mobil 1 products. I'm not sure what the dealer upcharge is for you, but if you do it yourself Mobil 1 has a rebate = $24 for the 10 quarts the car requires. Speedway lowered their price to $49.99 a box, but they didn't answer if they are an eligible seller for the rebate. Summit will price match the $49.99 if you call them and is eligible for the rebate.

The dealer said about $6 a quart, so it's $60 to upgrade my "free" oil changes.

[jmhinkle]

Originally Posted by trohde78

The dealer said about $6 a quart, so it's $60 to upgrade my "free" oil changes.

That's not bad at all. At best your paying $76 just for the oil to do it yourself. The trade off is "those people" aren't touching your car.