[RyanR3KC]

just put a Vette Z06 against the Hellcat and that will pretty much sum it up.

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by RyanR3KC

just put a Vette Z06 against the Hellcat and that will pretty much sum it up.

Yeah plenty of those match ups on you tube. Some the Z06 wins some the hellcat wins. The new ZL1 with the 10spd will change things a lot though.

[tones2SS]

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Yeah plenty of those match ups on you tube. Some the Z06 wins some the hellcat wins. The new ZL1 with the 10spd will change things a lot though.

^^^This!

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Yeah plenty of those match ups on you tube. Some the Z06 wins some the hellcat wins. The new ZL1 with the 10spd will change things a lot though.

Originally Posted by tones2SS

^^^This!

What type of racing?

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

What type of racing?

Mainly roll racing on the highway from what I've seen.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

Mainly roll racing on the highway from what I've seen.

That's what I thought. Roll racing has waaaaayyyyy to many variables to be scientific. In another words take it with a grain of salt.

BTW at a track or drag strip using the same pro driver on the same day a Z06 will "always" win.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

That's what I thought. Roll racing has waaaaayyyyy to many variables to be scientific. In another words take it with a grain of salt.

BTW at a track or drag strip using the same pro driver on the same day a Z06 will "always" win.

B-b-b-b-but 707 HP!?

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

That's what I thought. Roll racing has waaaaayyyyy to many variables to be scientific. In another words take it with a grain of salt.

BTW at a track or drag strip using the same pro driver on the same day a Z06 will "always" win.

I agree from a standstill the Z06 and the new ZL1 with the 10 spd auto will win. When roll racing, weight doesn't have as much of a factor as it does when standing still.

[2cnd chance]

Originally Posted by Jeffro19

I agree from a standstill the Z06 and the new ZL1 with the 10 spd auto will win. When roll racing, weight doesn't have as much of a factor as it does when standing still.

It's gearing and HP.

[Jeffro19]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

It's gearing and HP.

Exactly

[Zeke.Malvo]

I really don't think the 10 spd is going to provide much if any benefit in a straight line over the outgoing transmissions. There's only so much gearing the engine really needs when it's making so much torque.

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[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Zeke.Malvo

I really don't think the 10 spd is going to provide much if any benefit in a straight line over the outgoing transmissions. There's only so much gearing the engine really needs when it's making so much torque.

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If you can't put it to the ground like the Hellcat, then yes it wouldn't help. But if putting the power down isn't an issue, the extra gears(assuming they didn't drastically changes ratios from the 8L90) means higher effective ratios, which can make make a major difference. The 8L90 Camaro is faster in the 1/4 than the M6 for this very reason.

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[Zeke.Malvo]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

If you can't put it to the ground like the Hellcat, then yes it wouldn't help. But if putting the power down isn't an issue, the extra gears(assuming they didn't drastically changes ratios from the 8L90) means higher effective ratios, which can make make a major difference. The 8L90 Camaro is faster in the 1/4 than the M6 for this very reason.

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Yes and no. I fully understand how gearing works.

There's a reason cars that go 0-60 in two gears do it quicker than those that need a third shift. There's a point to where the additional gearing doesn't do much, ESPECIALLY on a high torque engine. A Honda or something else with a small power band definitely needs all the gearing it can get, but a SC 6.2 making 640 tq, not so much.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Zeke.Malvo

Yes and no. I fully understand how gearing works.

There's a reason cars that go 0-60 in two gears do it quicker than those that need a third shift. There's a point to where the additional gearing doesn't do much, ESPECIALLY on a high torque engine. A Honda or something else with a small power band definitely needs all the gearing it can get, but a SC 6.2 making 640 tq, not so much.

0-60 isn't the only thing that matters and then when shifts take less than a pro driver with a manual...the difference becomes even less an issue.

And remember the 10 speed has only one extra power gear than the 8. We aren't talking about enough gear changes to hurt. And you can't deny that the A8 cars from every manufacturer run faster than their manual equivalents.

Will it make 4 tenths, not a chance. Will it improve by a tenth or two over the 8L90. Quite possible. But I do believe this new 10 speed is more about the track and squeezing MPG higher than anything.

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