[Mr. Wyndham]

I have to admit...I didn't know there was a third version of the GT350. I assumed Ford would have put all the cooling/track equipment on the standard version of the car...interesting that they did not.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

I have to admit...I didn't know there was a third version of the GT350. I assumed Ford would have put all the cooling/track equipment on the standard version of the car...interesting that they did not.

Mustang GT350: $49,920

· 3.73 TORSEN® limited-slip rear axle
· 5.2L Ti-VCT V8 with Flat Plane Crank
· TREMEC® 6-speed manual
· AdvanceTrac® with Electronic Stability Control (ESC)
· Electronic Line-Lock
· Four piston Brembo® rear brake calipers and 15" two-piece cross drilled iron discs mounted to aluminum hats
· Independent rear suspension
· Selectable-effort Electric Power-Assist Steering (EPAS)
· Automatic headlamps with wiper activation
· Blade decklid spoiler
· Dual Exhaust with Active Valves and quad tips
· HID headlamps with signature lighting
· Hood Vent
· LED sequential taillamps
· Mirrors - Power glass, manual folding with integrated Blind Spot Mirror and Gloss Black Cap
· Unique GT350 sill plates
· Rear-window defroster
· RECARO® cloth/Miko® suede Sport Seats
· Auto-dimming rearview mirror
· Manual climate control
· AM/FM stereo with single CD player and 6 speakers
· SYNC®
· Leather/Alcantara® - wrapped with tilt/telescoping steering column
· Leather-wrapped parking brake handle

Track Package includes: $6,500

• MagneRide™ Damping System
• Integrated Driver Control System
• Raised Decklid Spoiler
• Aluminum Tower to Tower Brace
• Engine Oil, Transmission and Differential Coolers
• Heavy-duty Front Springs
Note: Not available with Technology Package

The Technology Package is optional on the Shelby GT350® and includes: $7,500

• MagneRide Damping System
• Heavy-Duty Front Springs
• Integrated Driver Control (IDC) System
• 7 Speaker Audio System
• SiriusXM Satellite Radio with 6-month prepaid subscription
• SYNC® 3
• 4-Way Adjustable Head Restraints
• 6-Way Power Driver Seat with Power Lumbar
• 6-Way Power Passenger Seat
• Climate Controlled Front Seats
• Leather-Trimmed Sport Seats with Seat Back Map Pockets
• Dual-Zone Electronic Automatic Temperature Control (DEATC)
• Turn Signal Mirrors
• Universal Garage Door Opener
• Voice-Activated Navigation System

*Not available with Track Package

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

Mustang GT350: $49,920

· 3.73 TORSEN® limited-slip rear axle
· 5.2L Ti-VCT V8 with Flat Plane Crank
· TREMEC® 6-speed manual
· AdvanceTrac® with Electronic Stability Control (ESC)
· Electronic Line-Lock
· Four piston Brembo® rear brake calipers and 15" two-piece cross drilled iron discs mounted to aluminum hats
· Independent rear suspension
· Selectable-effort Electric Power-Assist Steering (EPAS)
· Automatic headlamps with wiper activation
· Blade decklid spoiler
· Dual Exhaust with Active Valves and quad tips
· HID headlamps with signature lighting
· Hood Vent
· LED sequential taillamps
· Mirrors - Power glass, manual folding with integrated Blind Spot Mirror and Gloss Black Cap
· Unique GT350 sill plates
· Rear-window defroster
· RECARO® cloth/Miko® suede Sport Seats
· Auto-dimming rearview mirror
· Manual climate control
· AM/FM stereo with single CD player and 6 speakers
· SYNC®
· Leather/Alcantara® - wrapped with tilt/telescoping steering column
· Leather-wrapped parking brake handle

Track Package includes: $6,500

• MagneRide™ Damping System
• Integrated Driver Control System
• Raised Decklid Spoiler
• Aluminum Tower to Tower Brace
• Engine Oil, Transmission and Differential Coolers
• Heavy-duty Front Springs
Note: Not available with Technology Package

The Technology Package is optional on the Shelby GT350® and includes: $7,500

• MagneRide Damping System
• Heavy-Duty Front Springs
• Integrated Driver Control (IDC) System
• 7 Speaker Audio System
• SiriusXM Satellite Radio with 6-month prepaid subscription
• SYNC® 3
• 4-Way Adjustable Head Restraints
• 6-Way Power Driver Seat with Power Lumbar
• 6-Way Power Passenger Seat
• Climate Controlled Front Seats
• Leather-Trimmed Sport Seats with Seat Back Map Pockets
• Dual-Zone Electronic Automatic Temperature Control (DEATC)
• Turn Signal Mirrors
• Universal Garage Door Opener
• Voice-Activated Navigation System

*Not available with Track Package

Thanks for that.

Seems to me that the obvious head-to-head should be a GT350TP vs a 1SS/1LE. And I think the 1LE could handily win that comparison at $12,000 less...

[Waiting46]

Another reason for magnetic suspension on the 1LE (optional)

[crankaholic]

Originally Posted by Nicul15

one minute on the street the LT1 will be much less annoying. even the standard coyote leaves me looking for more with its lack of grunt real down low. a boss and voodoo would be wayyy worse. thats just my opinion, there are tons of heavier imports(e92 m3) that lack the power down low much worse then these ford engines.

It's the same situation with my motorcycles... one is an air cooled 1200cc twin that redlines at 9,500RPM and the other is a liquid cooled 600cc I4 that redlines at 17,000RPM. Funny thing, acceleration up to 70MPH is nearly identical between the two bikes - but I know which one I'd rather have for daily riding or cruising around vs spirited riding in the twisties or track duty.

Higher RPM engines not only provide more HP, which is irrelevant if the higher torque motor is designed well; but they increase what I like to call the sampling rate of throttle position. Think of it this way - whenever you change the throttle position, besides all the electronic BS, the engine takes a few milliseconds to adjust itself to the change. The faster it's spinning and the more cylinders there are, the faster that change is registered. Your brain waits for these changes, and in cars that have a slight delay you end up over correcting for something the engine would have gotten around to... it's not a huge difference, but it's definitely there and makes spirited driving/riding a lot more enjoyable.

[mcsoul]

I've gotta say the gt350 is a heck of a car and if one with a track or tech package could be had in the low 50's it would be on the radar. They are currently 65k+ and none can be found without one of the two packages.

I certainly believe that a 1SS manual could keep with 2 seconds of the non R version on a 2 minute course, we will have to see once more lap times come in for both cars.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

I have to admit...I didn't know there was a third version of the GT350. I assumed Ford would have put all the cooling/track equipment on the standard version of the car...interesting that they did not.

More than likely they kept all the cooling optional to keep the MSRP down, which I think is kind of lame.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

More than likely they kept all the cooling optional to keep the MSRP down, which I think is kind of lame.

Right? They've got the GT for cheap V8-ness...this is their track car, for goodness sake.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

More than likely they kept all the cooling optional to keep the MSRP down, which I think is kind of lame.

And the MagneRide. I wonder if it is that critical to the cars handling. I mean most of the other suspension stuff is on the PP and it isn't spectacular in comparison.

[Bhobbs]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wyndham

Right? They've got the GT for cheap V8-ness...this is their track car, for goodness sake.

I guess they had to make cuts somewhere to get the 5.2 in a $50k car.

Originally Posted by SuperSound

And the MagneRide. I wonder if it is that critical to the cars handling. I mean most of the other suspension stuff is on the PP and it isn't spectacular in comparison.

That's a good point. I wonder how the GT350 base would do vs a GT350TP.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Exactly. I bet 1 or 2% of GT350 sales will be no option. It might as well not exist for anyone who wants a track car or a street car. Kind like all the guys who want a 1SS with no track ready equipment, or extras. Maybe 1% of potential buyers.

Here is an example of the misleading base MSRP from M6G. He thinks the base GT350 is track ready but, then again, also thinks a 1SS 1LE would also need additional brake upgrade and MRC.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

Here is an example of the misleading base MSRP from M6G. He thinks the base GT3 is track ready but, then again, also thinks a 1SS 1LE would also need additional brake upgrade and MRC.

Another example of someone assuming you need MRC and 6 pistons to compete against a base GT350. More like a GT350TP, but then he would have to explain how 5.2 is worth another $10k.

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

Another example of someone assuming you need MRC and 6 pistons to compete against a base GT350. More like a GT350TP, but then he would have to explain how 5.2 is worth another $10k.

Right! While not realizing the base GT350 doesn't have MRC

[EricTheCamaroGuy]

Originally Posted by Bhobbs

I have a feeling those will be the production wheels. The early testing was done with the previous generation 10 spokes and these new 10 spokes showed up recently. They are probably pretty close to being done with the car, except for minor details.

I'd love to swap my 5 spoke wheels for those 10 spoke. They look good in my opinion.