12-27-2011, 08:40 PM | #155 | |
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12-27-2011, 08:42 PM | #156 | |
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12-27-2011, 08:56 PM | #157 | |
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I also go to the drags often but have not raced my car yet. Even though the Mustang Coyote is faster in the right hands I see 5th gen Camaros coming out on top about half the time. So even with the extra 200 pounds it is usually a drivers race GT versus SS. So who wouldn't agree a lighter car is better? But the extra weight does not ruin the car. One nice benefit is the perfect crash test score. I wonder though if the 6th gen really will wind up being 200 pounds lighter. I for one doubt it. If so it may wind up being more expensive, I do agree the axles should be stronger. GM needs to up their game in that area.
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At the strip is another story, if got a M6 car get ready for some drivetrain carnage. I'm pretty confident all those issues will be solved with the current ZL1 drivetrain though...but it comes with a weight penalty. GM made a beautiful car with this 5th gen.....no doubt. And they are selling a boat load of them, which is great news for the nameplate. The problem is, this car was built for the masses, not the enthusiast. By shedding weight in the next gen, hopefully GM will sastify both the masses and the enthusiasts...time will tell. |
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12-27-2011, 09:10 PM | #160 |
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The only Camaros I like are the 67-73 and the 5th gen. Most cars from the 80s were
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12-27-2011, 09:11 PM | #161 |
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Does that mean you agree? Just kidding. But name a better Camaro. Fourth gens? Not in my opinion. I had three of them. The 5th gen is a modern car that is quite fast, handles well at the track, and is very comfortable to drive.
And I never had a car before where so many people come up to me and tell me how cool my car is. It's almost embarrassing. If all you want to do is go fast in the quarter then the 5th gen is not the car to buy. Get yourself a Fox body mustang.
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12-27-2011, 09:19 PM | #162 | |
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Here's my take....I have owned 7 Camaros...2 second gens, 2 third gens, 2 4thgens and a 5th gen. You're spot on in all aspects...this is hands down the best built, most comfortable Camaro ever produced. It does everything good, but nothing exceptional. It's a cool car for the masses.....if you're looking to go fast on a road course or drag strip, you had better start looking elsewhere. |
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12-27-2011, 09:19 PM | #163 | |
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And outside of a few unfortunate incidents like yours (to be expected in a car that people actually drive)...the car is remarkably durable and easy-to-modify. Astounding! I look forward to seeing them magnify this "perfect" formula on an architecture better suited to the task than even the impressive Zeta platform is. I'm going to try and get everyone to kick the habit of bad-mouthing past Camaros... |
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12-27-2011, 09:22 PM | #164 |
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Here is the link...with several interesting bits on the ATS
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_shows..._cadillac_ats/ If the info in the above article and the quote from an actual GM engineer is true, then I don't see why it can't be at least a few hundred lbs lighter. No reason it should be any more expensive because its lighter. Not like they are using lightweight expensive materials...just a new platform to start on.
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12-27-2011, 09:28 PM | #165 | |
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I was worried about the weight before I bought the car. But with my mods now I do not notice. It is very easy to cure the understeer by simply adding stronger sway bars. And although I have not done this yet, upgrading to smaller and lighter wheels makes the steering and handling much more responsive. So a good part of that ponderous feeling is from the SUV like wheels and tires. Easily, but not cheaply, fixed. All cars except for very few are built for the masses. Exceptions like the Z06 and Boss Mustang are few and far between. Hopefully we will see a new Z28 even before the 6th gen. But back to the 6th gen discussion. I just wonder. Once you add the V8, stronger drive train, bigger brakes, etc. I do not think the Camaro will wind being 200 pounds lighter than the current car. I hope I am wrong. Even so the 6th gen will have to be a very special car to make me sell my 5th gen.
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12-27-2011, 09:28 PM | #166 |
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this thread is full of lolz
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12-27-2011, 09:37 PM | #167 | |
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We will have to disagree about the handling. Stock there is too much understeer. But this is easily curable. And slow in the 1/4? There are cam and bolton cars running in the 10s at stock weight with no power adders. Seems fast to me.
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12-27-2011, 09:45 PM | #168 |
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Not just Camaros, I would say IMO about 95% of the cars from the late 70s to early 90s were hideous looking when I look back on them now.
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