A8 Issue TSB 16-NA-175 2017 2SS - Page 11

CamaroFlyer · 01-20-2018, 01:04 PM

My car goes in for torque converter replacement Monday. It's a MY17 with 3200 miles. It is concerning to have this significant of a problem at such low mileage. Hopefully they will do a good job and I won't have any additional problems on down the road.

z2f2ss · 01-25-2018, 11:20 PM

I just took mine in as I've had the issue very slowly get worse and worse. I'm so tempted to trade it in for a manual but man ill lose so much money especially since I did 0% It sucks!!

Dealer saying they cant reproduce it but willing to take a drive with me. Thing is, its sporadic. When it switches to V4, though, its getting louder. I hate the V4 mode. After an engine replacement at ~600 miles now this?!!?

DiGiam · 02-02-2018, 09:36 AM

Let me tell you what you guys are in for. My car brand new was fine. Then the shudder started and it got flushed 3 times. shudder came back and got the torque converter replaced along with the transmission cooling line recall. After the torque converter replacement the car developed harsh 1-2 shifts and 2-3 shifts when the transmission gets up to temp. They switched it to the new GM DexronHP fluid and did a relearn on the transmission and it did no good. The shudder came back again after 4000 miles on the new converter. This has been one of the worst pain in the ass cars ive ever owned. Ive owned a 14 1SS A6 and had zero issues. Then had a 14 1LE and had zero issues. GM had great intentions with this A8 and this car but poorly executed it. I doubt ill ever buy another Camaro unless they make some serious changes and its proven to work.

MJinNC · 02-05-2018, 01:41 PM

As stated before, I had the flush done about 1500 miles ago. Shudder comes a little more often now, not as bad as it was before flush. Was thinking of having the TC changed when I bring in the car for its first oil change. Reading below not sure this is a good idea to do so. If new TC shudders then why go through the change out.

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Originally Posted by DiGiam

Let me tell you what you guys are in for. My car brand new was fine. Then the shudder started and it got flushed 3 times. shudder came back and got the torque converter replaced along with the transmission cooling line recall. After the torque converter replacement the car developed harsh 1-2 shifts and 2-3 shifts when the transmission gets up to temp. They switched it to the new GM DexronHP fluid and did a relearn on the transmission and it did no good. The shudder came back again after 4000 miles on the new converter. This has been one of the worst pain in the ass cars ive ever owned. Ive owned a 14 1SS A6 and had zero issues. Then had a 14 1LE and had zero issues. GM had great intentions with this A8 and this car but poorly executed it. I doubt ill ever buy another Camaro unless they make some serious changes and its proven to work.

SuperSound · 02-05-2018, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MJinNC

As stated before, I had the flush done about 1500 miles ago. Shudder comes a little more often now, not as bad as it was before flush. Was thinking of having the TC changed when I bring in the car for its first oil change. Reading below not sure this is a good idea to do so. If new TC shudders then why go through the change out.

I have the complete opposite experience from DiGiam. TC replacement solved the issue and no trouble yet with 3K+ miles since it was replaced. I think only 2 people have actually had the issue reoccur after the TC was replaced. Not really enough responses to be sure either way.

2SSLOWW · 02-13-2018, 08:25 AM

Dropped my car off at the dealer today. Hit 26,xxx miles and didn't think much of the shudder until I read this. Hopefully they fix it hassle free. I have headers but no tune so it shouldn't be an issue.

Reaper333 · 02-13-2018, 08:49 AM

I'm taking mine in Thursday. Got to go for a ride with one of the trans techs at my dealer. They have been good to be so hopefully this will be pretty painless.

SuperSound · 02-23-2018, 08:03 AM

New poll is up for Ask Al:

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=521560

Strange Flavor · 02-23-2018, 10:10 AM

Just scheduled an appointment on Monday to get the TC replaced. I had it flushed in December and he told me then to come back in 500 miles and he would replace the converter. It's been about 1000 and honestly it drives 90% better with the flush but I still think I feel some shuddering every now and then. Outside of that, last night on the way home after driving in manual mode a bit when I put it back in drive it started doing some really weird rpm fluctuations on very light acceleration, and slow speeds. Anyone else ever get this? Anyway that is what scared me into the decision to call today and set up the TQ converter replacement. I had a friend say when you feel the shudder something in the converter starts delaminating, so that was a factor too.

Stig eh · 02-23-2018, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperSound

New poll is up for Ask Al:

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=521560

Yup.

ninetres · 02-23-2018, 08:26 PM

Curious question: Are there aftermarket Tc for the a8? Do they eliminate the shudder?

Klayman · 02-24-2018, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ninetres

Curious question: Are there aftermarket Tc for the a8? Do they eliminate the shudder?

Yes....but you will need to adjust shift points in the tranny computer also. In the 2017's this requires removing the computer module and sending it to a tuner that can do this. This will in all likely hood void any warranty.

not sure of any success with just an aftermarket T/C without the shift point adjustments......it has been discussed, probably in the transmission section.

ExCrystal · 02-27-2018, 01:44 PM

Picked up my 2SS A8 (dealer/corp. car).

VIN search yields no recalls for this issue. Should I still get it checked out? I don't think the car shudders, though.

SuperSound · 02-27-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ExCrystal

Picked up my 2SS A8 (dealer/corp. car).

VIN search yields no recalls for this issue. Should I still get it checked out? I don't think the car shudders, though.

TSB and recall are different. So if you don't have the shudder, nothing you need to do until then.

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02-02-2018, 09:36 AM	#143
DiGiam Drives: 2016 NFG SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Valdosta Posts: 405	Let me tell you what you guys are in for. My car brand new was fine. Then the shudder started and it got flushed 3 times. shudder came back and got the torque converter replaced along with the transmission cooling line recall. After the torque converter replacement the car developed harsh 1-2 shifts and 2-3 shifts when the transmission gets up to temp. They switched it to the new GM DexronHP fluid and did a relearn on the transmission and it did no good. The shudder came back again after 4000 miles on the new converter. This has been one of the worst pain in the ass cars ive ever owned. Ive owned a 14 1SS A6 and had zero issues. Then had a 14 1LE and had zero issues. GM had great intentions with this A8 and this car but poorly executed it. I doubt ill ever buy another Camaro unless they make some serious changes and its proven to work. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8. Pray ported intake manifold, Rotofab dry cai, kooks 2" catted longtubes, E85,

02-23-2018, 08:03 AM	#148
SuperSound Drives: '17 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 5,063 View My Garage	New poll is up for Ask Al: http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=521560 __________________ Current: '17 2SS Hyper Blue, A8, MRC, NPP Past: '99 SS Camaro A4, '73 Camaro 383 A3 "Voices in your head are not considered insider information." 3800 Status - 6/16/16 (Built!) 6000 status - 6/29/16 (Delivered!)

01-20-2018, 01:04 PM	#141
CamaroFlyer Drives: 2017 1LT V6 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Indiana Posts: 11 View My Garage	My car goes in for torque converter replacement Monday. It's a MY17 with 3200 miles. It is concerning to have this significant of a problem at such low mileage. Hopefully they will do a good job and I won't have any additional problems on down the road.

01-25-2018, 11:20 PM	#142
z2f2ss Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS Hyper Metallic Blue Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 35	I just took mine in as I've had the issue very slowly get worse and worse. I'm so tempted to trade it in for a manual but man ill lose so much money especially since I did 0% It sucks!! Dealer saying they cant reproduce it but willing to take a drive with me. Thing is, its sporadic. When it switches to V4, though, its getting louder. I hate the V4 mode. After an engine replacement at ~600 miles now this?!!?

02-13-2018, 08:25 AM	#146
2SSLOWW Drives: 2016 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 92	Dropped my car off at the dealer today. Hit 26,xxx miles and didn't think much of the shudder until I read this. Hopefully they fix it hassle free. I have headers but no tune so it shouldn't be an issue.

02-13-2018, 08:49 AM	#147
Reaper333 Drives: 2016 Camaro 2SS Black.. Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: VA Posts: 54	I'm taking mine in Thursday. Got to go for a ride with one of the trans techs at my dealer. They have been good to be so hopefully this will be pretty painless.

02-23-2018, 10:10 AM	#149
Strange Flavor Drives: 17 Fifty SS, 11 2SS, 91 LSX C1500 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Louisiana Posts: 193 View My Garage	Just scheduled an appointment on Monday to get the TC replaced. I had it flushed in December and he told me then to come back in 500 miles and he would replace the converter. It's been about 1000 and honestly it drives 90% better with the flush but I still think I feel some shuddering every now and then. Outside of that, last night on the way home after driving in manual mode a bit when I put it back in drive it started doing some really weird rpm fluctuations on very light acceleration, and slow speeds. Anyone else ever get this? Anyway that is what scared me into the decision to call today and set up the TQ converter replacement. I had a friend say when you feel the shudder something in the converter starts delaminating, so that was a factor too.

02-23-2018, 08:26 PM	#151
ninetres Drives: Crush ZLE M6 \| 2000 Corvette FRC Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Cencal Posts: 1,659	Curious question: Are there aftermarket Tc for the a8? Do they eliminate the shudder?

02-27-2018, 01:44 PM	#153
ExCrystal Drives: 2017 2SS NGM Join Date: May 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 149	Picked up my 2SS A8 (dealer/corp. car). VIN search yields no recalls for this issue. Should I still get it checked out? I don't think the car shudders, though.

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