THE UNOFFICIAL 2023 ORDER WAITING ROOM. 😁 - Page 10

The Maverick · 05-08-2022, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddy1293

Gorilla Automotive, has a complete 20 pc set wheel locks called "The System." You can get them in chome/blk. Look just like oem. Have used them on my cars w/o any problems. Also, I always order an extra key, at my age I misplace things. lol Half the price of GM's and 5 locks per wheel instead of one.

The problem with the System lugs is that they did not feel right when I tried to torque them down on my factory forged wheels on my '21. That's when I came back to the forum and noted the distinction between a cone seat and bulge cone seat lug nut - the latter is what our factory lugs are. The ones arpad and I discuss above are bulge cone seats. Discussion on this in various forum threads, but personally I will not run a set like the Gorilla System, unless it has a bulge cone seat configuration.

arpad_m · 05-08-2022, 10:29 PM

Yes, Maverick is making excellent points, we have to use bulge cone seat lugs for proper seating.

I opted for the shorter lug nuts, because I love how they line up perfectly with the wheel's face (and match the height of the one locking lug nut I use on each 4 wheels). This, of course, it's somewhat subjective, the longer ones will work just as well.

BigDaddy1293 · 05-09-2022, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Maverick

The problem with the System lugs is that they did not feel right when I tried to torque them down on my factory forged wheels on my '21. That's when I came back to the forum and noted the distinction between a cone seat and bulge cone seat lug nut - the latter is what our factory lugs are. The ones arpad and I discuss above are bulge cone seats. Discussion on this in various forum threads, but personally I will not run a set like the Gorilla System, unless it has a bulge cone seat configuration.

I don't know how the 6th gen's wheels are, but I used the system on my 2012 SS & my 2015 2SS1LE w/o any problem. But I defer to you on 6 gens as I am waiting on a 23 and haven't dealt with the new ones. Having been in L/E for 30 plus yrs, I do know that thieves looking for wheels prefer the single locks.

cardude43 · 05-09-2022, 10:15 AM

Does anyone know if there is a pricing difference with 2023 vs 2022?

Newcastle · 05-09-2022, 10:24 AM

My salesman didn't tell me there was an increase and I was afraid to ask. lol I am sure there will be a 500-1000 increase but that's a guess on my part.

rst08tierney · 05-09-2022, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle

My salesman didn't tell me there was an increase and I was afraid to ask. lol I am sure there will be a 500-1000 increase but that's a guess on my part.

From when the order banks opened up on the refreshed Silverado they saw an increase of $900 early march then a late march increase of $1300 for a total of $2200 on top of a $1600 jump from the LTD.

I'm expecting at least a $2500 increase for 2023 Camaro. If I'm wrong ill consider it a discount.

arpad_m · 05-09-2022, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle

My salesman didn't tell me there was an increase and I was afraid to ask. lol I am sure there will be a 500-1000 increase but that's a guess on my part.

Hell man, if you're afraid to ask such a simple question, you'll be put through the wringer by the finance manager.

I'm an introvert, so I totally understand, but you have to toughen up, line your mind with a resolve of steel and prepare thoroughly for these encounters.

Newcastle · 05-09-2022, 11:53 AM

Calm down, I was kidding. I will pay MSRP what ever it is.

Big Lou 1le · 05-09-2022, 12:51 PM

I can see a 10% increase on MSRP, and a increase in the shipping.

LeonardS · 05-09-2022, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Lou 1le

I can see a 10% increase on MSRP, and a increase in the shipping.

I don’t believe the ZL1 will go up $7,000, but anything is possible.

Big Lou 1le · 05-09-2022, 01:49 PM

Meant to say a 1 to 2 percent increase.

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Originally Posted by LeonardS

I don’t believe the ZL1 will go up $7,000, but anything is possible.

LeonardS · 05-09-2022, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Lou 1le

Meant to say a 1 to 2 percent increase.

That, I agree with.

CUPRA · 05-09-2022, 03:21 PM

When I placed my order, it was said that pricing wasn't available for the 2023 Camaro as of yet, but the Corvette price changed by $1000 year over year, so my salesperson didn't expect the Camaro to change too much year over year.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/2023-co...rice-increase/

D.O.M.D1 · 05-09-2022, 06:31 PM

I'm waiting on the 2023 model year pricing as is, also the new 20 in. wheel design [(Q7G) 20" 5-split spoke Black forged aluminum wheels for LT and LT1]

are there any pictures/information out there for the new 20 in. wheels yet, does anybody have anything?

thanks

05-08-2022, 10:29 PM	#128
arpad_m Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 13,436 View My Garage	Yes, Maverick is making excellent points, we have to use bulge cone seat lugs for proper seating. I opted for the shorter lug nuts, because I love how they line up perfectly with the wheel's face (and match the height of the one locking lug nut I use on each 4 wheels). This, of course, it's somewhat subjective, the longer ones will work just as well. __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS — G7E MX0 NPP F55 IO6 735 rwhp \| 665 rwtq Magnuson TVS 2300 80mm pulley \| Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers \| JRE smooth idle Terminator cam \| LT4 FS & injectors \| TSP forged pistons & rods JMS PowerMAX \| DSX flex fuel kit \| Roto-Fab CAI \| Soler 95mm LT5 TB \| 1LE wheels \| 1LE brakes \| BMR rear cradle lockout \| JRE custom tune 1100 - 1/30/18 \| 2000 - 1/31/18 3000 - 2/06/18 TPW 2/26/18 3400 - 2/19/18 \| 3800 - 2/26/18 4300 - 2/27/18 \| 4B00 - 3/01/18 4200 - 3/05/18 \| 4800 - 3/14/18 5000 - 3/16/18 \| 6000 - 3/19/18

05-09-2022, 03:21 PM	#139
CUPRA Drives: '21 Bronco OBX/'18 Jeep GC Altitude Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Keller, TX Posts: 1,413 View My Garage	When I placed my order, it was said that pricing wasn't available for the 2023 Camaro as of yet, but the Corvette price changed by $1000 year over year, so my salesperson didn't expect the Camaro to change too much year over year. https://www.kbb.com/car-news/2023-co...rice-increase/ __________________ Order Placed: 04/30/22 Order Accepted: 10/18/22 TPW: 11/07/22 Built: 11/18/22 VIN received: 11/19/22 On a Train: 02/27/23 ETA: TBD 2023 Camaro 2SS Convertible/M6/Shadow Grey Metallic/Adrenaline Red Interior/Carbon Flash Wheels/NPP

05-09-2022, 06:31 PM	#140
D.O.M.D1 Banned Drives: i want a camaro Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: miami, the hottest place on earth Posts: 407	I'm waiting on the 2023 model year pricing as is, also the new 20 in. wheel design [(Q7G) 20" 5-split spoke Black forged aluminum wheels for LT and LT1] are there any pictures/information out there for the new 20 in. wheels yet, does anybody have anything? thanks Last edited by D.O.M.D1; 05-10-2022 at 05:23 AM.

05-09-2022, 10:15 AM	#130
cardude43 Drives: 2012 2LT/RS IOM Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1	Does anyone know if there is a pricing difference with 2023 vs 2022?

05-09-2022, 10:24 AM	#131
Newcastle Drives: 2022 2 SS 1LE on order ....now a 23 Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: North TX Posts: 285	My salesman didn't tell me there was an increase and I was afraid to ask. lol I am sure there will be a 500-1000 increase but that's a guess on my part.

05-09-2022, 11:53 AM	#134
Newcastle Drives: 2022 2 SS 1LE on order ....now a 23 Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: North TX Posts: 285	Calm down, I was kidding. I will pay MSRP what ever it is.

05-09-2022, 12:51 PM	#135
Big Lou 1le Drives: 2023 1le Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: West Texas Posts: 230	I can see a 10% increase on MSRP, and a increase in the shipping.

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