[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by JBones81

I think my ss 1le was like that also. It really was very fast, but on city streets at like 15% of its limit, you weren't able to really experience what it could do.

Wait until you get your ZL1. This car begs you to push it.

[JBones81]

Originally Posted by raptor5244

Wait until you get your ZL1. This car begs you to push it.

Looking forward to that.

[KaMaRow]

was your ss a manual? My buddy had one, the manual ss, and then got the zl1 auto. its a deceptive thing. The manual is geared different and with less gears and while shifting you can throw yourself around rather harshly. With the zl1 auto its 10 gears and much much smoother and will seem less violent which makes it seem sluggish i guess. But its not .

for reference. had both a 21 supra and a 21 3lt z51 c8 at the same time on paper the c8 should of stomped the supra. but the supra is like driving a redbull energy drink and the C8 was like driving a fine wine. so in comparison everyone including myself swore the supra was faster and more fun but in reality we weren't going as fast and not doing the 0-60 the c8 was even though it felt like warp speed in the supra. actually the c8 is such a refined experience i sold it the car is actually rather boring to drive cause you dont feel any of that performance. The supra is a hella lot better car to drive for pure fun.

Same with the Camaro. the manual ss was and seemed way faster and more involved. The zl1 seems more refined and smoother and perhaps that is the issue? but trust me the zl1 isnt slow LOL

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by KaMaRow

was your ss a manual? My buddy had one, the manual ss, and then got the zl1 auto. its a deceptive thing. The manual is geared different and with less gears and while shifting you can throw yourself around rather harshly. With the zl1 auto its 10 gears and much much smoother and will seem less violent which makes it seem sluggish i guess. But its not .

for reference. had both a 21 supra and a 21 3lt z51 c8 at the same time on paper the c8 should of stomped the supra. but the supra is like driving a redbull energy drink and the C8 was like driving a fine wine. so in comparison everyone including myself swore the supra was faster and more fun but in reality we weren't going as fast and not doing the 0-60 the c8 was even though it felt like warp speed in the supra. actually the c8 is such a refined experience i sold it the car is actually rather boring to drive cause you dont feel any of that performance. The supra is a hella lot better car to drive for pure fun.

Same with the Camaro. the manual ss was and seemed way faster and more involved. The zl1 seems more refined and smoother and perhaps that is the issue? but trust me the zl1 isnt slow LOL

That sensation is probably why even ZL1 owners mod their cars. These 6th gens hide their speed extremely well, guess you need a convertible to feel more of the power at "sane" speeds.

I rode shotgun in 850-900 rwhp manual SSs/ZL1s, they're not even close to smooth and refined at that level but freaking crazy. We're talking 3-4 seconds from low highway speeds to 150+ (theoretically speaking of course).

(Never pushed the owners for more and tried to forget the experience so it wouldn't totally spoil my car with its "pitiful" 735 rwhp )

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by KaMaRow

was your ss a manual? My buddy had one, the manual ss, and then got the zl1 auto. its a deceptive thing. The manual is geared different and with less gears and while shifting you can throw yourself around rather harshly. With the zl1 auto its 10 gears and much much smoother and will seem less violent which makes it seem sluggish i guess. But its not .

for reference. had both a 21 supra and a 21 3lt z51 c8 at the same time on paper the c8 should of stomped the supra. but the supra is like driving a redbull energy drink and the C8 was like driving a fine wine. so in comparison everyone including myself swore the supra was faster and more fun but in reality we weren't going as fast and not doing the 0-60 the c8 was even though it felt like warp speed in the supra. actually the c8 is such a refined experience i sold it the car is actually rather boring to drive cause you dont feel any of that performance. The supra is a hella lot better car to drive for pure fun.

Same with the Camaro. the manual ss was and seemed way faster and more involved. The zl1 seems more refined and smoother and perhaps that is the issue? but trust me the zl1 isnt slow LOL

I find the ZL1 with its Cadillac chassis to have a dual personality. You can put it in Tour Mode and cruise peacefully and the A10 shifts nice and smooth. Flip it to Sport mode and put your foot in it and it turns into full race car. The A10 starts holding gears longer, the exhaust note and Supercharger whine kick in. This car is fast down low but it is ridiculously quick from like 60-130mph. The brakes are incredible as well. When the highway off ramp is clear I come off with high speed and late brake just so I can feel those massive Brembos go to work. The A10 sense the G-forces and starts downshifting while keeping the rpm up. My point is if you push this car it comes alive but if you want to just cruise it can settle down and relax.

[JBones81]

Originally Posted by KaMaRow

was your ss a manual? My buddy had one, the manual ss, and then got the zl1 auto. its a deceptive thing. The manual is geared different and with less gears and while shifting you can throw yourself around rather harshly. With the zl1 auto its 10 gears and much much smoother and will seem less violent which makes it seem sluggish i guess. But its not .

for reference. had both a 21 supra and a 21 3lt z51 c8 at the same time on paper the c8 should of stomped the supra. but the supra is like driving a redbull energy drink and the C8 was like driving a fine wine. so in comparison everyone including myself swore the supra was faster and more fun but in reality we weren't going as fast and not doing the 0-60 the c8 was even though it felt like warp speed in the supra. actually the c8 is such a refined experience i sold it the car is actually rather boring to drive cause you dont feel any of that performance. The supra is a hella lot better car to drive for pure fun.

Same with the Camaro. the manual ss was and seemed way faster and more involved. The zl1 seems more refined and smoother and perhaps that is the issue? but trust me the zl1 isnt slow LOL

Yea, manual...I don't think the auto was offered in 2017 on the 1LEs. I had an auto Supra, too...a '93, though. I sold it in 2005, and it only had 42k miles

[L99BEN]

Originally Posted by KaMaRow

actually the c8 is such a refined experience i sold it the car is actually rather boring to drive cause you dont feel any of that performance. The supra is a hella lot better car to drive for pure fun.

Same with the Camaro. the manual ss was and seemed way faster and more involved. The zl1 seems more refined and smoother and perhaps that is the issue? but trust me the zl1 isnt slow LOL

That (in bold above) is why I sold my ZL1 tbh; it just didn't feel that fast or exciting to me. I found myself never driving my new car I was paying $900 a month for, so it had to go unfortunately..

I also owned a 16' SS in the past and the ZL1 didn't feel much faster.
I really wanted to love it, as I greatly enjoyed the SS, so on paper the ZL1 should have been about perfect.

With all that said, I am starting to think mine may have the issue stated in this thread (https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559582), because it felt held back like it wasn't making full boost (almost like running the black in the Hellcat)
I wasn't aware of that potential issue at the time however...
It was also in the middle of the Summer at the time so maybe heat soak too contributing.
The speedo was moving pretty fast at WOT though so I don't know.

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by L99BEN

That (in bold above) is why I sold my ZL1 tbh; it just didn't feel that fast or exciting to me. I found myself never driving my new car I was paying $900 a month for, so it had to go unfortunately..

I also owned a 16' SS in the past and the ZL1 didn't feel much faster.
I really wanted to love it, as I greatly enjoyed the SS, so on paper the ZL1 should have been about perfect.

With all that said, I am starting to think mine may have the issue stated in this thread (https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559582), because it felt held back like it wasn't making full boost (almost like running the black in the Hellcat)
I wasn't aware of that potential issue at the time however...
It was also in the middle of the Summer at the time so maybe heat soak too contributing.
The speedo was moving pretty fast at WOT though so I don't know.

Did you ever use the built in 0-60mph, 0-100mph and 1/4mi timers?

I just got my car a few months ago and even with a fair amount of tire spin I am getting 3.7sec 0-60mph, 7.6sec 0-100mph and 11.5 1/4 mile using the built-in timer.

[L99BEN]

Originally Posted by raptor5244

Did you ever use the built in 0-60mph, 0-100mph and 1/4mi timers?

I just got my car a few months ago and even with a fair amount of tire spin I am getting 3.7sec 0-60mph, 7.6sec 0-100mph and 11.5 1/4 mile using the built-in timer.

I never used the built in timers, but I did use my Dragy a few time's which seemed a bit slow.
60-130 was in the low to mid 9sec range in around 1900 DA and it felt even slower than that like not making full boost and "flat" feeling best way to describe it. My friends noticed it felt underwhelming as well compared to the Hellcat (which should be no faster). I was expecting the ZL1 to be in the 8 sec range in 0-2000 DA.
0-60 using launch control felt decent after it bogged a little. It was after 2nd gear that felt meh.

My Hellcat in similar conditions and same road was in the 8.5-9.0 60-130

Current 20' GT500 60-130 around low 7 sec and very worst 7.4 sec in the middle of the Summer and that with a little tire spin in 2nd and the during the 2-3 shift

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by L99BEN

I never used the built in timers, but I did use my Dragy a few time's which seemed a bit slow.
60-130 was in the low to mid 9sec range in around 1900 DA and it felt even slower than that like not making full boost and "flat" feeling best way to describe it. My friends noticed it felt underwhelming as well compared to the Hellcat (which should be no faster). I was expecting the ZL1 to be in the 8 sec range in 0-2000 DA.
0-60 using launch control felt decent after it bogged a little. It was after 2nd gear that felt meh.

My Hellcat in similar conditions and same road was in the 8.5-9.0 60-130

Current 20' GT500 60-130 around low 7 sec and very worst 7.4 sec in the middle of the Summer and that with a little tire spin in 2nd and the during the 2-3 shift

Ok, I am in Florida basically at sea level and a bit cooler and less humid this time of year so the car feels strong. I will have to compare in a few months when we go sub-tropical down here.