[KILLA BEE]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Would love to have you come up.

I can get one in to test on your car, no charge for install and no charge for dyno test.

You buy the intake from me

Sounds cool let me see how far it is from Baltimore. To your shop

[KILLA BEE]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Would love to have you come up.

I can get one in to test on your car, no charge for install and no charge for dyno test.

You buy the intake from me

Ok bet what are your hours and days your open.. The intake is a xmas gift so let me let the wife know and let's plan this real soon..your only four hours away from me this should be in fun

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

Ok bet what are your hours and days your open.. The intake is a xmas gift so let me let the wife know and let's plan this real soon..your only four hours away from me this should be in fun

Mon-Fri 8-5

[JANNETTYRACING]

Bump it up Tuesday.

[LesBaer]

Originally Posted by KILLA BEE

Ok bet what are your hours and days your open.. The intake is a xmas gift so let me let the wife know and let's plan this real soon..your only four hours away from me this should be in fun

You can come pick me up on your way...my Camaro's done for the winter and it's too embarrassing showing up there in my Charger

Ted, you had mentioned earlier in this thread you would be testing new injectors. Got any news? Thanks.

[KILLA BEE]

Originally Posted by LesBaer

You can come pick me up on your way...my Camaro's done for the winter and it's too embarrassing showing up there in my Charger

Ted, you had mentioned earlier in this thread you would be testing new injectors. Got any news? Thanks.

Lmao!!!!!

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by LesBaer

You can come pick me up on your way...my Camaro's done for the winter and it's too embarrassing showing up there in my Charger

Ted, you had mentioned earlier in this thread you would be testing new injectors. Got any news? Thanks.

You might have to break it out of winter jail my car is at 575 with stock manifolds and exhaust

[6spdhyperblue]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

You might have to break it out of winter jail my car is at 575 with stock manifolds and exhaust

What route did you go?

[LesBaer]

I was off yesterday and popped over since I was passing by. I think I remember him saying that he's got the maggie on there now, smaller pulley and either a voltage booster on the stock fuel pump or the LT4 pump - but he removed the headers to do some of the testing. If you look at the stages he's listed them out either in this thread or a similar thread under the forced induction section...one of them is 575rwhp (either stage 2 or 3 I think).

I'm actually planning something out now myself, to get my car to the next level. Having good long tube headers with only one set of high flow cats will help a lot, since that's really one of the only restrictions we have to remove. I've already got those in place and am thinking about a custom cam. I may do it soon if the weather holds out or wait until the spring.

[oldman]

There are many cams, why custom? OR by custom you mean shop designed? Nothing wrong with that BTW.

[JANNETTYRACING]

Originally Posted by oldman

There are many cams, why custom?

As we always have we will be choosing the intake lobe, exhaust lobe, lobe separation angle, and fuel pump lobe combinations we like and will be offering them under our Logo.

Our cam line are very successful powering thousands of cars around the world.

Ted.

[LesBaer]

Originally Posted by oldman

There are many cams, why custom?

That's what I'm just starting to investigate. I'm definitely not going the E85 route and want something DD friendly. I doubt that I'll be able to test out a car with the GT35 cam in it for example to see if it's too aggressive or how it feels. Ted's close by to me and since he'll be doing the tuning and knows my car, he can customize perfectly to the vehicle and what I'm looking for.

[171LE]

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

First I must thank Fraxum for volunteering his car for this project.

Also, Thanks To ARH for providing the 2 inch headers for testing.

Note; all testing is done under extremely tight controlled conditions and procedures developed over the last 30 years running dyno tests, using the Superflow SF-840 Twin Eddy current load bearing dyno that I have owned and operated for the last 14 years

Every run is data logged, ECT, IAT, and Oil temps are stabilized, and weather station is correcting for conditions.

The results are inarguable, accurate and repeatable.

Test 1 2016 Camaro SS LT-1 M6 STOCK 7600 miles on Odometer running Mobil 93 octane. 429 RWHP 436 RWTQ represented by the black lines in all of the dyno graphs.

Everything from this point forward will be called Stock VS referencing these base numbers.

Test 2 STOCK VS ROTOFAB DRY. 435 RWHP 438 RWTQ

Peak to peak gains are +6 RWHP + 3 RWTQ

Delta gains are + 6 RWHP +5 RWTQ

All gains are above 4400 RPM which is what we expected since the stock air box is so good.



Test 3 STOCK VS MSD ATOMIC W ROTOFAB DRY. 445 RWHP 435 RWTQ

Peak to Peak gains +16 RWHP -1 RWTQ

Delta Gains 31 RWHP 26 RWTQ AT 6350 RPM

All gains are above 5000 RPM with a loss at 3800 RPM



Test 4 STOCK VS MSD ATOMIC W STOCK AIR BOX 442 RWHP 435 RWTQ

Peak to Peak +13 RWHP -.5 RWTQ

Delta Gains +25 RWHP +23 at 6350 rpm

All gain are above 5000 RPM with a loss at 3800



Test 5 STOCK vs ARH 1 7/8 LT W CATS LONG SYSTEM TO STOCK MUFFLER WITH NPP, MSD ATOMIC AND STOCK AIR BOX 456 RWHP 448 RWTQ.

NOTE. I had already tested the headers on a stock car so it was pointless to repeat that testing this test shows how much the headers compliment the MSD intake.

Peak to Peak gains 27 RWHP 12 RWTQ

Delta gains + 40 RWHP +33 RWTQ AT 6350 RPM



TEST 6 STOCK vs ARH 1 7/8 LT W CATS TO STOCK MUFFLER, MSD ATOMIC AND ROTOFAB DRY. 460 RWHP 446 RWTQ

Peak to Peak gains 31 RWHP 11 RWTQ

Delta gains +46 RWHP +31 RWTQ



Final test 7 STOCK VS ARH 2 INCH LT W CATS TO STOCK MUFFLER, MSD ATOMIC, ROTOFAB DRY. 459 RWHP 444 RWTQ

Peak to Peak gains +30 RWHP + 9 RWTQ.

Delta Gains +45 RWHP + 29 RWTQ.



All though the 2 inch headers did not matched the 1 7/8 LT from 2200 to 6000 RPM the 2 inch headers did make more power from 6000 to Rev limit.

I can see the 2 inch Headers having the advantage with Cam and Forced induction.

Graph for discussion Stock VS 1 7/8 vs 2 inch LT



Any questions post them here and I will address them.

Our power Packages will be built off of this information and tuning developed during this process.

Ted,

Why is there a large wave on the torque curve (1 7/8" vs 2")

[PRAY]

Originally Posted by 171LE

Ted,

Why is there a large wave on the torque curve (1 7/8" vs 2")

It is the MSD. There is no way to tune it out or port it out. If there was, Ted would have found it for sure. That is just what it does with the stock cam and from what I have seen aftermarket cams as well. Ted has much more experience with these cars than I do and will probably chime in with a better response on why the MSD does what it does. There are alternatives to the MSD.