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It has a shape. Not just plain sides. It is not just shaped like a pill. I just don't get the trend of all cars looking like a pill & all trucks & SUV's looking like a box. I also prefer the look of the older GMC trucks/SUV's like the ones in the thread below. Build some shape into those fenders as well as the front & rear shapes. The Maxima is basicly the same shape as the Altima. It does not take a designer to come up with smooth sides & front with a little chrome slapped on it. It is great that Chevy spends most of their design budget on Camaro & Corvette, but a little more on the rest of the line would be great also. Here are pics of what I got. It seems a few C5 members agree with me. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=325117
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But the V6 wasn't about making more horsepower than the V8 , that's what you made it seem like with the 4 Banger having more horsepower than the V6 and V8. Which was never the V6 motive. |
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Definitely older V8 Mustangs, anyway.
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Was watching an episode of Top Gear/BBC, and they dyno'd an old 350...... Then had to paint over the 350 because it was no longer even close. HP drops quickly w/age.
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11-23-2013, 06:56 PM | #135 |
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I still don't believe this whole thread.
Even if you guys want to argue about whether it will sell, I don't see Al making a statement so definitive about a product this early. Also, why hasn't the automotive press picked this up? I don't see Jalopnik, Left Lane, Auto Week, Motor Trend, or anyone else posting stories about this and making a big deal. Basically, what I want is proof. Show me some.
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11-23-2013, 07:24 PM | #136 | |
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Let's try and stay on topic: that is - the author's baseless assumption that there will be no four cylinder in the next-gen Camaro. Sounds like wishful thinking on his part - and he attempted to make his own dreams come true by misusing Mr. Oppenheiser's comments on another topic. |
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I know the topic has changed, but the core of this whole thread is built on calling out the chief engineer of our favorite car. His name is now associated with the idea that no 4-cylinder Camaro is planned. That's fine if it turns out to be true. If it's wrong, however, someone's going to call him a liar, and that's not okay.
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I understand, but where in that quote does it say "There will not be a four-cylinder"? The original author was...imho...irresponsibly bold in his reporting.
I am just afraid that people are reading in between the lines where there is nothing to read, imo. However...CAFE standards are real...the 2.0T ATS is real... Take this quote for example: "In the future – something I don’t think the public realizes yet – there may be a day when nobody: Ford, Chrysler or GM has a V8...." So does that mean they're dropping the V8? No....but you could make an equally baseless argument against a V8 in the 6th-gen by this quote as the author has made against a four-cylinder using the "downisizing" comment. Al and the rest of the Camaro team often refered to the entire Camaro lineup when describing the car's character, ability, or purpose; from LS to Z/28. I think that the entire lineup is what he is referring to in that statement...just thinking back to how I've seen these guys talk and act. If you substitute a T4 for the V6, just for example: that statement still means the same thing, and the Camaro, as a brand, is not changed. |
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